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Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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Post by JCharante »

andrewmunsell wrote: post #88
RobertDeNiro wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just the fact that they decided to stay with what is essentially a highly technical acronym i.e. GPT, as their major product line says a lot.

To be fair, the name "ChatGPT" has quite a bit of mindshare and I've found many non-technical folks referring to any generative AI product as "ChatGPT" or "GPT". Yet, if you asked any single one of them what "GPT" stood for, they'd have no clue.

To be fair, I'm a dev who uses chatgpt on an hourly basis and I had no idea what GPT stood for until I googled it just now. I think it's kinda smart to make people strongly associate GPT with OpenAI

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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Post by JCharante »

stevesearer wrote: post #22
atleastoptimal wrote: post #11

I wonder how much money I could make making "GPTs" full time. Barrier to entry is nonexistent so I imagine highest revenue ones if this becomes a serious thing people use will be advertised externally or have some proprietary info/access.

I bet if you combined GPT creation with Zapier integrations you could help a lot of people and companies.

So many zapier integrations are half baked. A lot of them are good for reacting to events but not for searching for data (i.e. you can use zapier to react to a jira ticket change but can't use zapier to query jira for ticket info)

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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Post by jes5199 »

Uehreka wrote: post #111
atleastoptimal wrote: post #11

I wonder how much money I could make making "GPTs" full time. Barrier to entry is nonexistent so I imagine highest revenue ones if this becomes a serious thing people use will be advertised externally or have some proprietary info/access.

> I wonder how much money I could make making "GPTs" full time I don’t get why people are thinking along these lines at all. Like, if you don’t own and control the LLM yourself, what makes you so sure OpenAI will allow you to make money at all? They could make advertising externally or hosting external marketplaces against the TOS. They could copy your GPT and put their “official” version at the top of the store page…

ChatGPT is the new iPhone. Dealing with a walled-garden app store is never a great experience, but we'll do it because that's where the users are

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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Post by MeImCounting »

cubefox wrote: post #135
MeImCounting wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the catastrophe is mega-corps getting to monopolize a valuable technology because people saw The Terminator and thought it was a documentary then any announcement from OpenAI is bad news.

The catastrophe is humanity going extinct from superintelligent AI. Like a native species going extinct after an invasive species arrives. Mentioning Terminator is like saying the Earth is flat because Hitler said it is round.

This reminds of the Eliezer Yudkowsky tweet saying that AI was going to hack our DNA and use our bodies to mine bitcoin or something. Ridiculous fearmongering.

I have probably read more sci-fi than the average HN user but the whole "superintelligent AI is going to kill us all" hysteria is among the more ridiculous ideas I have ever heard.

Really though I have entertained all the doomers propositions and none of them seem any more likely than the plot of the Matrix. The ideas that prop these fears up are based on layers of ever more far fetched hypothesis about things that do not exist. If you have a novel reason why AI poses an x-risk I am more than interested in hearing it.

Here is a really interesting quote that I think might go against some of the misanthropic tendencies of doomers and the tech crowd in general but it really is more relevant than ever: “There was also the Argument of Increasing Decency, which basically held that cruelty was linked to stupidity and that the link between intelligence, imagination, empathy and good-behaviour-as-it-was-generally-understood – i.e. not being cruel to others – was as profound as these matters ever got.”

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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Post by singularity2001 »

andrewmunsell wrote: post #88
RobertDeNiro wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just the fact that they decided to stay with what is essentially a highly technical acronym i.e. GPT, as their major product line says a lot.

To be fair, the name "ChatGPT" has quite a bit of mindshare and I've found many non-technical folks referring to any generative AI product as "ChatGPT" or "GPT". Yet, if you asked any single one of them what "GPT" stood for, they'd have no clue.

I've heard all permutations of "GPT" "GPP" "GTP" etc.

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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Post by atleastoptimal »

ilaksh wrote: post #136
atleastoptimal wrote: post #11

I wonder how much money I could make making "GPTs" full time. Barrier to entry is nonexistent so I imagine highest revenue ones if this becomes a serious thing people use will be advertised externally or have some proprietary info/access.

Right now, zero. They didn't say when it was rolling out or what percentage they would share. It might be something like 10%. Lol.

I will make a bot that makes GPTs, and a bot that makes other bots that make GPTs

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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Post by nomel »

gustavopch wrote: post #145
nojvek wrote: post #126

Googles: Custom versions of Google. Anyone can easily build their own Google. No coding is required. You can make them for yourself, just for your company’s internal use, or for everyone. Creating one is as easy as starting a conversation, giving it instructions and extra knowledge, and picking what it can do, like searching the web, making images or analyzing data. The whole point of ChatGPT was go to one single pla…

Being able to have multiple personae could be very useful. One persona may not give you the answer you're looking for, but another one may. I think maybe they should require the GPTs to have human names though so people intuitively understand that. Like, Paul can't help me with this task, so let me ask Monica instead. They could even interact.

A good example is creative/idea work vs fact work. You don't want creative facts, and you don't want fact bounded creativity. You either have a prompt ready to paste, to prime the conversation/context, or you can use a personality.

One "über" AI is great, but it requires guidance into the context you're interested in, including yourself. For example, the default ChatGPT will assume you're uneducated about any topic you ask about.

I think this all fits perfectly into what Sam Altman talked about in the Lex Friedman podcast: people want an AI that fits their own worldview/context. Custom instructions, and "about yourself" are good starts, but sometimes you want to talk to a chef, and sometimes a scientist.

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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Post by singularity2001 »

minimaxir wrote: post #46
oezi wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many people made any money from the plugins for ChatGPT?

Plugins failing was more due to lack of visibility, which a GPT Store does solve.

How does the store solve visibility? In the demo it looked like there was a select list of Custom Assistants in the left panel which he manually had to click, so not much different from plug-ins?

Right he said something about promoting the best but what about the discoverability?

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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Post by nomel »

vunderba wrote: post #134
nojvek wrote: post #126

Googles: Custom versions of Google. Anyone can easily build their own Google. No coding is required. You can make them for yourself, just for your company’s internal use, or for everyone. Creating one is as easy as starting a conversation, giving it instructions and extra knowledge, and picking what it can do, like searching the web, making images or analyzing data. The whole point of ChatGPT was go to one single pla…

They still have that - it's just regular GPT-4. One immediate application about this one is that it makes it trivial to create a fine tuned version of GPT based on your data, where you can upload a series of documents that can basically act like a set of embeddings that augment the regular GPT trained data.

> create a fine tuned version of GPT

No. It's unclear fine-tuning is happening. Many are guessing it's RAG.

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