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Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

#51

I wonder how much money I could make making "GPTs" full time. Barrier to entry is nonexistent so I imagine highest revenue ones if this becomes a serious thing people use will be advertised externally or have some proprietary info/access.

I’m not clear who the market is? Why someone buy one?

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

#52

I wonder how much money I could make making "GPTs" full time. Barrier to entry is nonexistent so I imagine highest revenue ones if this becomes a serious thing people use will be advertised externally or have some proprietary info/access.

I agree. Anyone with factual data (proprietary or not) is now an input away to AI / GPTs. Data (or a new foundational model) is now the moat.

Data has always been the moat no ?

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#53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bet if you combined GPT creation with Zapier integrations you could help a lot of people and companies.

Thoughts on Zapier trying to become OpenAI faster than OpenAPI can become Zapier? There will always be a long tail of APIs that folks want integrating, but the most popular APIs are perhaps only a few hundred in number (Google Calendar and Slack, for example).

I feel like history has shown that those who own the platform end up winning and in this case OpenAI's platform of models seems much harder to recreate. My guess is this would lead to Zapier using OpenAI as a platform and eventually OpenAI would re-create Zapier's integrations before the other way around.

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

#54
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I wonder how much money ... I saw that announcement and my immediate thought was "God yet another thing passive income youtubers will be shilling soon" In general, I was a little confused by this. Sam's demo of creating a GPT didn't seem particularly exciting as well.

OpenAI in a weird way has mediocre marketing. The examples they use for Dalle-3 are way worse than the average ones I see people cooking up on Twitter/Reddit. They only seem to demo the most vaguely generic implementations of their app. Even their DevDay logo is just 4 lines of text.

Just the fact that they decided to stay with what is essentially a highly technical acronym i.e. GPT, as their major product line says a lot.

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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post #16

So i guess the next wave of startups has been killed. I'm not even sure what kind of startup still makes sense as a gpt thin wrapper?

This meme is getting very old and tired. What kinds have been 'killed' I don't see this anywhere.

Many startups have started over the past few years, trying to build infrastructure (shovels) for companies to integrate LLMs, or specific chat copilots trying to cater to a specific usecase. Most are dead in the water once OpenAI subsumes their feature set.

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post #16

So i guess the next wave of startups has been killed. I'm not even sure what kind of startup still makes sense as a gpt thin wrapper?

None of them, but here's the thing: they never made any sense.

Yeah none of them ever did, and that was always very obvious. If you can make it by wrapping a few API calls, you have no moat and anyone can steal your idea/customers.

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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post #16

So i guess the next wave of startups has been killed. I'm not even sure what kind of startup still makes sense as a gpt thin wrapper?

None of them, but here's the thing: they never made any sense.

They never made sense long term, of course. But, plenty of first movers made a bundle of money making chatgpt wrappers and marketing the hell out of them. In that context, they probably made sense for a small subset of people for a small slice of time.

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

#59
> The best GPTs will be invented by the community

> We believe the most incredible GPTs will come from builders in the community. Whether you’re an educator, coach, or just someone who loves to build helpful tools, you don’t need to know coding to make one and share your expertise.

“Please work for us for free, while we keep all the product of your work for ourselves like we did with the content we scraped on the internet.”

OpenAI really is next level parasitism.

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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post #16

So i guess the next wave of startups has been killed. I'm not even sure what kind of startup still makes sense as a gpt thin wrapper?

> I'm not even sure what kind of startup still makes sense as a gpt thin wrapper?

Startups don't make sense as thin wrappers around another company's product when that company is aggressively expanding that product is a core offering that the vendor is aggressively working to provide as an integrated solution for as many markets as possible, which very much applies to OpenAI offerings in general, and its chat models especially.

A wrapper that also leverages some exclusive special sauce data, algorithm, etc., for which you have a real moat as a key component, that makes some sense. But just a thin wrapper around GPT? That's just asking to have your market eaten by OpenAI.

It might make some sense for products where the vendor is a stable, steady-state infrastructure supplier for many markets without any evident interest in entering the same market as the startup, where the uncertainty across markets that they would create by specifically targeting your startups market would hurt them more with their established customers than they would gain from your niche, but even that is risky because it requires lots of potentially-erroneous assessments of how the vendor would expect their other customers to react to them acting in your market.

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