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Xbox will block third-party controllers to "preserve the console experience"

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Re: Xbox will block third-party controllers to "preserve the console experience"

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Post by smcl »

numpad0 wrote: post #114
0xAFFFF wrote: post #85

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This. Serving cryptic error codes over issues that do have a proper wording is a big no.

“Using unauthorised accessories compromises your gaming experience. For this reason, the unauthorised accessory will be blocked from use on 11/12/2023,” read the pop-up on the console. It then advised the player to return the product to the store or talk to the manufacturer. It seems the proper wording is displayed along the code, though, just the article elaborates later. If you think the existence of such code itse…

Interesting how they render the date, there will be players in the UK who will see that and think they can use their controllers until the 11th of December. I don't know why they didn't just use "12th of November, 2023"

Re: Xbox will block third-party controllers to "preserve the console experience"

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Post by smcl »

master-lincoln wrote: post #102
dizzi90 wrote: post #81

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> I have sold a half-dozen Cronus Zen adapters Don't do that, please. Sell drugs or something, less damaging to society.

How is cheating in video games hurting society? I would assume it drives people off playing multiplayer games, but I fail to see how this would be bad for society.

I think it was a joke :-)

Re: Xbox will block third-party controllers to "preserve the console experience"

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Post by keraf »

codeTired wrote: post #15
0x500x79 wrote: post #7

I think that this is a response to the rising usage of the Cronus and/or other controller modification tools that give players advantages (cheats). For example one of these "Mods" for Cronus state that they are: a dynamic, fully-automated Anti-Recoil system that transforms your in-game character into a laser-guided juggernaut we've affectionately dubbed as [BEAM] Battling cheaters in video games is a never-ending cha…

No, they are not doing this to stop cheaters. It might be a nice side effect. They are doing it because money.

If the goal was really to stop cheater, they'd provide an API in their XDA to let game developers reject unauthorized controllers. That way, ranked matches could take advantage of this to make competitive games more fair. If people want to have more fun with cheats in a single player game using an unapproved third-party controller, they should be able to do so!

Re: Xbox will block third-party controllers to "preserve the console experience"

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Post by endisneigh »

solardev wrote: post #143
endisneigh wrote: post #111

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Buy a gaming pc if you want freedom

What's the difference? An Xbox is essentially one already.

You don’t see the difference between an Xbox and a gaming pc running windows?

Re: Xbox will block third-party controllers to "preserve the console experience"

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Post by endisneigh »

squigz wrote: post #139
endisneigh wrote: post #111

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Buy a gaming pc if you want freedom

Good point. I forgot Microsoft doesn't have any stake in that market and would never do anything to infringe PC user freedom.

You can play games on Linux.

Re: Xbox will block third-party controllers to "preserve the console experience"

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Post by jowea »

_xivi wrote: post #104
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #71

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Not every way; you have more control over quality and experience in a closed system. I mean yeah it sucks, but so does spending money on a controller that isn't good enough. edit: I'm reading somewhere else it's to stop cheat enabled controllers. Wouldn't want to play multiplayer games if someone has an unfair advantage like that.

> you have more control over quality and experience > I'm reading somewhere else it's to stop cheat enabled controllers No, it's always been about revenue. I never understand why people take company's word and run with it. Are they actually fooled? Of course, the company won't be blunt and say to the consumer: honestly, we force you to buy from us because it make us more money. This is really weird "solution". They l…

Can't it be both reasons?

Re: Xbox will block third-party controllers to "preserve the console experience"

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Post by skywhopper »

b3orn wrote: post #142
grishka wrote: post #112

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Error codes are specific and can be looked up. The modern trend of "uwu we fucky-wucked up" cutesy error messages with no details whatsoever is inexcusable because of how much harder it makes to troubleshoot the error.

If error codes can be looked up, why can't the software displaying the error code just do the lookup and show a proper error message?

I suspect this gets pushback internally because the descriptive error message baked into the OS is often wrong or misleading. Having a code you can look up can provide a lot more context.

Re: Xbox will block third-party controllers to "preserve the console experience"

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Post by VincentEvans »

pierat wrote: post #57
josephcsible wrote: post #54

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Making arbitrary peripherals not work is the opposite of "a seamless plug and play experience".

The masses are almost always willing to trade rights for 'ease'. It's also how we get to IoT, cloud-tied software and hardware, and all sorts of anti-purchaser tech, to benefit the actual owner. The longer I live, I realize that Stallman was right about tech. All of it.

Non-microsoft peripherals in my gaming universe are used for one purpose - to cheat and to tilt the otherwise perfectly level playing field into cheaters favor. I don’t care for their existence.

There’s a ton of other options to play games where non-standard “enhancements” are allowed, along with wall hacks, map hacks, anti-recoil, trigger hacks, etc. You and Stallman can use those.

Hopefully they ban mouse and keyboard too.

I prefer “my ball” to officially stamped and pumped to the correct pressure.

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Post by VincentEvans »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #69
VincentEvans wrote: post #37

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You think even most cheaters will claim it's a fightstick adapter in particular?

Every cheater will buy a cheating peripheral, and then go around saying how it isn’t all that much of an advantage, and how they don’t even need it, and have some story how they got it for some other reason entirely and certainly not for the reasons stated on the box. And then continue using it.

The poster claims to somehow know how much of an advantage it is. Wonder how that knowledge was acquired?

I am sure that too was perfectly innocent and just “that one time”. Then why all the hand-wringing about these cheats getting blocked?

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