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Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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post #137

UESP is the gold standard for wikis. https://uesp.net/wiki/Main_Page

They also spun up a Starfield wiki, still no salvation for the Fallout players out there https://starfieldwiki.net/

I'm hoping this is the one that takes off. It's very young, and the information is very hit-and-miss, but its growing, and since its a young wiki, its easy to add information that's missing

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

#152
post #60

Excellent. I hope to see more games following suit away from the bloated messes of fandom/fextralife. At times they feel unusable on mobile. And I don't think a single user has wanted to see the embedded twitch streams when they're just trying to get some information quickly.

> fextralife

Yes, please let us get away from them. If you've ever browsed Twitch, you'll see them with tens of thousands of viewers... but when you join the channel, engagement is sparse.

The reason this happens is because they embed their Twitch stream into every. page. you. visit. This is slimy, annoying, and slows the loading.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

#153

I've always wondered why a wiki needs to monetize so hard. Most of their content easily cacheable and produced by volunteers, plus the technology hasn't really changed in 20 years. The whole site could probably be maintained by a single dev and a few admins. It seems natural that these sites are going to eventually be replaced because of this. Maybe I have an incorrect view of the costs/revenue.

> Maybe I have an incorrect view of the costs/revenue. I run Weird Gloop (the group hosting the Minecraft/RuneScape wikis) and your view is generally correct. The content is extremely cacheable and the infrastructure costs have extremely strong economies-of-scale. The labor costs are a bit less obvious, but past a certain baseline (of, say, having enough people for a reasonable oncall rotation), the marginal labor co…

Thanks for hosting the OSRS wiki! It's amazing, out-of-your-face, and just works.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

#155
post #91
post #60

Excellent. I hope to see more games following suit away from the bloated messes of fandom/fextralife. At times they feel unusable on mobile. And I don't think a single user has wanted to see the embedded twitch streams when they're just trying to get some information quickly.

Path Of Exile Wiki has also moved about two years ago and GGG is providing hosting for a year now. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3292958 https://www.poewiki.net/ The old fandom wiki is quite dead but it's impossible to get rid of it, alas.

Yeah, super appreciate the fact that GGG were able to help out on the hosting of that!

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

#156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kagi makes it easy to essentially delist entire domains. So nice for when you find a content farm or for sites like pinterest. They even provide a list of the most blocked domains: https://kagi.com/stats (Click "Domain Insights")

It's probably safer to lower this one's ranking, rather than absolutely block it. There's more than a handful of things for which fandom.com is the correct result—the only actively-maintained wiki. Trust the search engine to do the signal/noise calculations for you. You are no longer on Google. Kagi is your agent, not your adversary.

There's an add-on called BreezeWiki which redirects you to an annoyance-free mirror of Fandom sites, which makes it at least a little less annoying to visit those wikis. It can also redirect you to a community-run wiki if it exists.

I found it through Libredirect which is the same idea but for more sites, but some of the alternative sites don't work as well in my experience.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

#157
post #98
post #74

Is there some reason they can't just edit the Fandom wiki and modify each page to point at the new one? (Maybe Fandom would revert the changes?)

Yeah it's against fandom rules. Wikis aren't allowed to link to their replacements

Thank you and the other repliers who answered. It wasn't a hard guess, as you can see, but it was an important bit of information to be sure about to understand the story.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

#158
post #70

NetHack did this when Fandom was still called Wikia. Luckily, the new forked site won search engines over easily and nethackwiki.com easily comes on first results if you search for NetHack stuff. Unlike NetHack, the Minecraft Fandom site is probably a lot more lucrative in ad revenue. I randomly was checking on Fandom's wikipedia page and noticed: "On October 3, 2022, Fandom acquired GameSpot, Metacritic, TV Guide, G…

They also made a chunk of money from selling dndbeyond which they bought for peanuts from Twitch.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

#159

>Unfortunately, because Fandom does not close wikis that have moved away, the old Fandom wiki will remain in place and continue to appear in search results. Wow that's vendor lock in right there. Fandom should have features to make the wiki read only, disable new posts, also a feature to pin a permanent banner for announcements, in this case for announcing the new home/link. That will be a much better migration path.

What incentive do they have to do that when they can just keep the old outdated site up and collect ad revenue from Google pointing people their way.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

#160

Doesn’t the domain name clearly infringe on Microsoft’s trademark? Even as someone who is knowledgeable, I can see this causing confusion. As useful as this is, I don’t see site lasting for very long at the current domain without an agreement from the trademark owner.

minecraftforum.net has been up for well over a decade at this point.
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