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Re: The Future of the Vim Project

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Doesn't work for all services. Some services will, if unable to charge the card,send whatever amount to collections, and now they have to deal with that.

Debt collectors are persistent, but hey at least if they follow me to Hell maybe they can take a tour, check out apartments for their stay.

Or pester your widow(er)

Re: The Future of the Vim Project

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My brother passed away very suddenly a few years ago, and I was put in charge of wrapping up and archiving his "digital" life. We were very lucky that we had access to a recovery email for his main gmail account (as well as a couple of passwords that his partner knew) and was able to access and archive virtually all data we could think of (services like Google Takeout were invaluable). I realized that if this had hap…

Let me add one other bit.

I had a similar experience about 18 months ago when my friend A. suddenly died. He was fit and healthy, but for some reason had a seizure on a bike ride, crashed, and that was the end of his story.

Unfortunately for his widow, she and he were not on a family account with Apple, and so it took a LOT of rigmarole to even access, say, the photos on his phone.

Apple now has a "Legacy Contact" feature you can enable; this is a VERY VERY GOOD IDEA FOR MOST PEOPLE. I assume Google has something similar if you're on Android.

The tl;dr is really "you just gotta have a plan." When you go, next week or decades from now, it'll be hard for those you leave behind. Do whatever you can to make it easier for them.

Re: The Future of the Vim Project

#153
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I have no worry about the funds being lost. It’s just imagining my heirs having to contact and close fifty+ accounts.

Serious question: How common is having dozens of accounts? I live in NL and have 3 at the same bank. Why would anyone have 50+ accounts?

The only reasons I can imagine are fund transfer times, and some isolation security for big amounts. As a fellow dutchie, I just use one bank for personal, and one for my business.

Re: The Future of the Vim Project

#154

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vim-cscope, which is the only reasonable way to read large C projects like the Linux kernel or BSD

What’s wrong with clangd via lsp?

n.b. LSP support was the reason cscope support was dropped

Re: The Future of the Vim Project

#155
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What features?

One "meta feature" that was dropped was the ability to build the editor with or without different features. vim --version shows a long list of +/- features, neovim doesn't do that. I'm sure neovim dropped a lot but I don't have the full overview. Prominently it dropped support for giving !commands access to the actual tty. Commands that access the tty have to be used through the command :term instead. Neovim prominen…

!pwd works for me in nvim, I use it every day

Re: The Future of the Vim Project

#156
post #44

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I have no worry about the funds being lost. It’s just imagining my heirs having to contact and close fifty+ accounts.

Serious question: How common is having dozens of accounts? I live in NL and have 3 at the same bank. Why would anyone have 50+ accounts?

Someone may have chequing+saving at one bank, a stock brokerage (or retirement savings) account at another institution, and a may have credit card(s) from completely different one(s).

So that could potentially be (at least) three different financially-related accounts.

Re: The Future of the Vim Project

#157
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My brother passed away very suddenly a few years ago, and I was put in charge of wrapping up and archiving his "digital" life. We were very lucky that we had access to a recovery email for his main gmail account (as well as a couple of passwords that his partner knew) and was able to access and archive virtually all data we could think of (services like Google Takeout were invaluable). I realized that if this had hap…

My brother-in-law's mother passed away last year and he was in a similar situation. Even beyond the digital realm, there are so many details in a person's life that have to be attended to. Insurance, mortgage, vehicle ownership, etc etc. It's really an overwhelming process and it took a toll on him. I've been thinking about building a platform to help prepare for and guide families who are faced with this kind of sit…

I think the hard part is more that it's difficult to focus on the business decisions against the background of a loved one's death, more than the process itself is difficult.

You pretty much need an estate lawyer just to navigate all of the legal stuff associated with a person's passing, and I went through this a few years ago with my own father.

But the majority of attorneys who handle estates can also handle all of the financial and personal details as well. The only times this really NEEDS to get complicated is when the estate has a negative net worth (which means a potential lack of funds to close the estate), contains businesses that need to be sold or split up, or when survivors fight each other for their percentage of the inheritance.

Re: The Future of the Vim Project

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post #78
post #13

My brother passed away very suddenly a few years ago, and I was put in charge of wrapping up and archiving his "digital" life. We were very lucky that we had access to a recovery email for his main gmail account (as well as a couple of passwords that his partner knew) and was able to access and archive virtually all data we could think of (services like Google Takeout were invaluable). I realized that if this had hap…

I'm lucky enough to never have been put in this situation, so please excuse my ignorance: why does someone need to be able to sign in to my accounts when I'm no longer?

Lots of other people have mentioned very good practical reasons (and you can read the linked post for others, like people being unsure of what the password to the Vim FTP is), but there are lots of good sentimental ones as well.

When something like this happens, you lose your mind slightly, and you become obsessed with preserving whatever is possible to preserve of the person. I went so far as to record his voice-mail message, just because I felt i needed to.

Of all the internet stuff, the thing that was most important to us was photos: he was a photographer, and he used a photo-uploading service (I think it was Google Photos, but I'm unsure, it's been a couple of years) and I was able to get an archive with all his thousands of photographs.

Eventually, I put everything I could possibly find (computers, internet services, whatever) into one big zip file, and put it on my local NAS (which is backed up to the cloud). I don't think I'll ever have the heart to go through it again, but my brother had young kids who never really got to know their dad. I figure one day they might want to look at it (even if it's 30 years from now) so it makes me feel good to know that it's been preserved.

Re: The Future of the Vim Project

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My brother passed away very suddenly a few years ago, and I was put in charge of wrapping up and archiving his "digital" life. We were very lucky that we had access to a recovery email for his main gmail account (as well as a couple of passwords that his partner knew) and was able to access and archive virtually all data we could think of (services like Google Takeout were invaluable). I realized that if this had hap…

I have a deadman switch where if I don’t log into a service for 90 days it sends all my passwords and information to my closest living relative.

Re: The Future of the Vim Project

#160
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I am not sure how you reconcile some of the philosophical differences between the projects. One of the first objectives of NeoVIM was to dump code for obsolete computing platforms. A ton of legacy code was deliberately removed so as to streamline the project. If I recall correctly, one of the reasons the original async patch was ostensibly rejected was because it would rely on a C89(?) compiler. That was considered t…

async is water under the bridge since Vim 8, both Neovim and Vim have async apis. I foresee native LSP and everything-lua to be a bigger schism between Neovim and Vim.

Also the deliberate lack of GUI for neovim. The currently extant neovim GUI shells are all universally broken, and some of them crash more than they run. I have yet to find one that is remotely as good as MacVim on macOS. I suspect that most of them are merely tolerable on Linux and some might be barely acceptable on Windows.
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