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Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> US Government data is so siloed The classified stuff wasn’t really that siloed. He had access to everything CIA, DIA, NSA, etc. He talked about this in his book. Searching for evidence of aliens was one of the first things he did when he got access.

Anyone who has worked at the fort can assure you that's not how it works...

Didn't he have a special PRIVACC designation that allowed him to bypass traditional "need to know" silo boundaries, under the auspices of being a sysadmin or whatever?

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#152

I don't know what to make of this. It just seems so incredibly implausibly that extraterrestrials would have the technology or motive to come to Earth without widespread detection.

More precisely, a civilization that can master interstellar travel and navigation but somehow keeps crashing on our planet?

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It’s a good call out - the ability of the government to keep secrets across decades. But - tinfoil hat time - have they not demonstrated their ability to do this wrt the knowledge around nuclear weapons? Edit: and considering the claimed abilities of UAP, might those technologies be on par (in terms of military might) with the technology behind nuclear weapons? Also, that bit about a spaceship needing a biological pi…

They said nothing about a pilot. He said they found "biologics". Doesn't mean it was a pilot.

Probably just means that a drone hit a cow.

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So just to give everyone here a bit of context. This hearing was not for the UFO Believers to be used as official disclosure. This was not to convince any skeptics out there this is real. This is a political tool for the congressional oversight committee (who themselves may not have any evidence) to put into record what they need to follow up on using their power of the purse and oversight rights.

Is this an issue of national Security? Who has what information? Who is housing what artifacts? What funds are used to pay for these projects? Who has committed crimes to hide this information?

All those questions weren't asked because anyone expected Grush, Fravour or Graves to tell them: Yeah I've got a UFO in my garage. In fact all witnesses answered all those questions before. This had one specific goal: Get this into congressional testimony, under oath, from credible witnesses and thus give congress the means, information and constitutional duty to investigate further.

And for all those sceptics out there: this is unusually bipartisan and seeing Gaetz and AOC both laserfocused on investigating government misuse of money on such a historically fringe subject is most interesting.

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Many people from the government and from the military are putting their reputation and career (and maybe safety) on the line to bring these informations to the public. Let’s at least recognize that before automatically casting doubt.

This stuff was popular in the Reagan era too. Odd to see it reappear right after Ronnie Junior left office

They need performative theatre of such dramatic potential they can distract from the Senates bill about banning Congress owning stocks

Edit: I don’t mean just the stock bill. They need to keep Overton window where it is.

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#156

I don't know what to make of this. It just seems so incredibly implausibly that extraterrestrials would have the technology or motive to come to Earth without widespread detection.

Why would aliens have to destroy? When I go out for a hike in the woods or a hike in a new state/country that isn’t my home. I don’t go out destroying the land around me. I observe and enjoy my time Maybe these aliens are scientists. Documenting biological life across the galaxy. Maybe they’re VanCampers. Just bouncing from planet to planet for fun If a civilization has presumably reached FTL travel. I imagine many o…

Seriously. There's nothing here that they can't find out in space in greater quantities and easier access. Except our animal and plant life. And no worries about harvesting us like in movies, it's way easier to grow meat or whatever than travel across the universe for it. We're most likely a curiosity.

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I watched the hearing and noticed three things: 1. Many questions about the US response to aerial devices like the “Chinese ballon” and the public’s right to knowledge about those events. 2. Calls for removing career stigma around pilots reporting UAPs. 3. Calls for additional funding and policies surrounding research and reporting of unidentified aerial phenomenon. It was a combination of pragmatic process improveme…

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Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

#158
Related threads on this hearing:

Whistleblower tells Congress: US Gov't hides 'non-human intelligence' evidence - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36882051 - July 2023 (1 comment)

Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36880471 - July 2023 (13 comments)

Public US hearing on UFOs [video] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36880454 - July 2023 (55 comments)

Live: UFO/UAP Congressional Hearings - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36879441 - July 2023 (95 comments)

House UFO hearing livestream [video] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36877774 - July 2023 (121 comments)

I'm not sure which URL is best so not sure where to marge the threads, most of which aren't very good anyhow. This is a topic on which people mostly just repeat their priors.

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

#159

I don't know what to make of this. It just seems so incredibly implausibly that extraterrestrials would have the technology or motive to come to Earth without widespread detection.

Why would aliens have to destroy? When I go out for a hike in the woods or a hike in a new state/country that isn’t my home. I don’t go out destroying the land around me. I observe and enjoy my time Maybe these aliens are scientists. Documenting biological life across the galaxy. Maybe they’re VanCampers. Just bouncing from planet to planet for fun If a civilization has presumably reached FTL travel. I imagine many o…

they said "detection" not "destruction"

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#160

I don't know what to make of this. It just seems so incredibly implausibly that extraterrestrials would have the technology or motive to come to Earth without widespread detection.

More precisely, a civilization that can master interstellar travel and navigation but somehow keeps crashing on our planet?

Maybe they are trying to subtly steer our planet out of the way of an extinction event meteor with ballistics - and we’ve accidentally steered the meteor back into a collision course!
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