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Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by matrix12 »

ryanSrich wrote: post #122
LapsangGuzzler wrote: post #118

Snowden spent quite a bit of time looking for UFO stuff since he had access to almost everything classified and never found any evidence. I’m not saying this whistleblower is definitely lying, but if anyone was capable and willing to bring this forward with receipts, Snowden would’ve done so.

That proves nothing though. US Government data is so siloed it’s possible Snowden would not have access to UFO info even if he had access to essentially everything the NSA had access to.

Not unless they were using HF radio to communicate between craft.

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Post by montagg »

srge wrote: post #132

Many people from the government and from the military are putting their reputation and career (and maybe safety) on the line to bring these informations to the public. Let’s at least recognize that before automatically casting doubt.

If they aren’t bringing evidence, it’s a waste of people’s time. Taking a big risk that is most likely a very bad decision shouldn’t provide any credibility at all. Do that when you can show evidence, and then you have credibility.

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Post by matrix12 »

LapsangGuzzler wrote: post #125
ryanSrich wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That proves nothing though. US Government data is so siloed it’s possible Snowden would not have access to UFO info even if he had access to essentially everything the NSA had access to.

> US Government data is so siloed The classified stuff wasn’t really that siloed. He had access to everything CIA, DIA, NSA, etc. He talked about this in his book. Searching for evidence of aliens was one of the first things he did when he got access.

Anyone who has worked at the fort can assure you that's not how it works...

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Post by jdwithit »

montagg wrote: post #124
LapsangGuzzler wrote: post #118

Snowden spent quite a bit of time looking for UFO stuff since he had access to almost everything classified and never found any evidence. I’m not saying this whistleblower is definitely lying, but if anyone was capable and willing to bring this forward with receipts, Snowden would’ve done so.

Trump would have done so. It would have been impossible for him to keep a secret. His need to stroke his own ego wouldn’t allow it. When Trump ended his term without once mentioning aliens, that’s when I was certain all of this was hogwash. Are there maybe very advanced aircraft out there we should be aware of? Certainly. But it’s definitely not aliens without hard af evidence.

This is a good point. Remember the time he revealed highly classified spy satellite capabilities by posting an extremely detailed photo of an Iranian nuclear site ON TWITTER [0]? He cannot help himself if there's a chance to show off.

Although, the nice thing about conspiracy theories is you can always just layer on another explanation. Obviously the Deep State didn't trust Trump with this dangerous knowledge, so they kept him in the dark. Some things not even the President is cleared to know. Duh.

0: https://www.npr.org/2022/11/18/1137474748/trump-tweeted-an-i...

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Post by chiefalchemist »

> “I was informed, in the course of my official duties, of a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse-engineering program, to which I was denied access,” Grusch told the committee.

So he's got hearsay but no hands-on or eyes-on direct proof. Like Mulder, I want to believe. But if you're going to speak under oath, you've got to do better than this.

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Post by throwawaysleep »

srge wrote: post #132

Many people from the government and from the military are putting their reputation and career (and maybe safety) on the line to bring these informations to the public. Let’s at least recognize that before automatically casting doubt.

In exchange for fame and large piles of cash.

I'll trade my good name for a few million bucks too.

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Post by froggychairs »

MikeTheRocker wrote: post #115

I don't know what to make of this. It just seems so incredibly implausibly that extraterrestrials would have the technology or motive to come to Earth without widespread detection.

Why would aliens have to destroy?

When I go out for a hike in the woods or a hike in a new state/country that isn’t my home. I don’t go out destroying the land around me. I observe and enjoy my time

Maybe these aliens are scientists. Documenting biological life across the galaxy. Maybe they’re VanCampers. Just bouncing from planet to planet for fun

If a civilization has presumably reached FTL travel. I imagine many of their needs have been met and conquest/destruction isn’t required to maintain their supremacy. Lots of empty planets with plenty of resources out there!

Not saying aliens/UFOs are real, but I think it’s very easy to imagine them existing and not being destructive. Or maybe they’re just scouting before the invasion :)

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Post by AndyMcConachie »

LapsangGuzzler wrote: post #118

Snowden spent quite a bit of time looking for UFO stuff since he had access to almost everything classified and never found any evidence. I’m not saying this whistleblower is definitely lying, but if anyone was capable and willing to bring this forward with receipts, Snowden would’ve done so.

I vaguely remember someone from the USAF coming forward in the 1990's and disclosing that the USAF had been planting UFO stories to provide cover for experimental aircraft development.

Here is a NYT article from 1997 on the the CIA coverup. https://web.archive.org/web/20230726002122/https://www.nytim...

But I also seem to remember an airforce person coming forward with similar stories that were more recent. This article talks about the 1950s-60s.

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Post by BaculumMeumEst »

“I was informed, in the course of my official duties, of a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse-engineering program, to which I was denied access,” Grusch told the committee.

Not sure if this is an insane person, a grifter looking for a book deal, or someone trying to trigger an investigation. But I’m going to go out on a limb and say we probably haven’t been studying a crashed alien spaceship for decades.

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Post by [deleted] »

LapsangGuzzler wrote: post #118

Snowden spent quite a bit of time looking for UFO stuff since he had access to almost everything classified and never found any evidence. I’m not saying this whistleblower is definitely lying, but if anyone was capable and willing to bring this forward with receipts, Snowden would’ve done so.

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