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As far as I understand, a blockchain is only needed to achieve consensus on the network state. Why does social media require this?
Adding to the parent question, why do I need a wallet to join Nostr? I registered, and while the registration was delightfully painless, it autocreated a wallet for me at legend.lnbits.com.
Nostr: Notes and Other Stuff Transmitted by Relays
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Re: Nostr: Notes and Other Stuff Transmitted by Relays
#152After reading the page for a bit I don't really understand the fundamental difference to other decentralized systems except for the global public key based identity. Nostr's relays are simply servers that push and receive structured data. So it's a sort of an email or http like protocol that's by default cryptographically signed? I don't really see the magic that makes it censorship resistant or particularly decentra…
I think when you sub to someone you're also sent a list of nodes that a person uses. So when I'm banned you already have my node in your list, so you won't even notice.
Re: Nostr: Notes and Other Stuff Transmitted by Relays
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I don't think these protocols are quite comparable to a Twitter-like "town square" model, so they don't have the same problems. But where they overlap, they do some "censorship": SMTP will delete spam, XMPP servers will kick out spammers and harassers. The problem with Twitter is that unlike RSS, it shows content from people you did not subscribe to (e.g. you get replies, you see strangers' replies to your friend's p…
> SMTP will delete spam Can you point to the part on the SMTP RFC that specifies the spam deletion behaviour? > XMPP servers will kick out spammers and harassers Nothing prevents nostr servers from kicking out based on account or IP address or message content > The problem with Twitter is that unlike RSS, it shows content from people you did not subscribe to. This is not Twitter, any client can decide which content t…
It could be a community run closed system where only citizens are given access to the system.
It doesn't (and I think shouldn't) have any crypto features built in. That's up to the client builders to handle.
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> If you get kicked off of that server you can move to another one, but you effectively have to create a new account. You loose all your followers, etc Sure that's not a feature?
Hah for me it is. The Alex Jones’s and Trumps and Fuentes’s and Kayne’s spewing their bile into a vacuum or even an isolated room into themselves (much like what Truth Social or Parler is) is a feature. They get to spew hate and dumb ideas and the rest of the civilized world need not hear or read it. Best of both worlds.
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Those have both been major problems for email. Enough that email has had multiple attempts at becoming encrypted, and mailing lists are very defunct for any sizeable group.
> Enough that email has had multiple attempts at becoming encrypted But all those attempts have failed. One presumes that this is because people like email the way it is... simple to use. > mailing lists are very defunct for any sizeable group. Hmm... I still subscribe to at least half a dozen mailing lists, some of which have hundreds or thousands of members.
And people choose to live in tyranny? No, it's because it's a coordination problem involving literally billions of people, thousands of pieces of software and would break compatibility.
> I still subscribe to at least half a dozen mailing lists
And I still use a radio to hew packets to connect to a BBS.
Re: Nostr: Notes and Other Stuff Transmitted by Relays
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The relationship to bitcoin besides being created by bitcoiners is that it uses Schnorr Signatures for the secp256k1 curve - the same curve as bitcoin. https://bips.xyz/340 A Nostr account is identified by a public key, you follow accounts by following public keys and the ability to post as an account is controlled by the corresponding private key.
Does this mean I could use a bitcoin hardware wallet to store my nostr keys and sign my posts?