It’s not a shadow ban if you can easily see that you’ve been banned.
The point of a shadow ban is for the banned user to not notice.
This sounds like a regular old ban/blocklist.
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#152HN taught me first hand on how horrible shadow banning is. You all tolerate this here so it's mighty hypocritical of you to criticize Bing. I'll say it again: It comes down to how you treat people. Treat others the way you want to be treated. No one wants to be shadowbanned and we can all agree it is a decidedly cowardly and cruel thing to do. And you can't use "quality" or anything short of being coerced as an excus…
Look at my post history and karma lol. I get exactly 3 karma and it gets hidden. I should do a line chart and post it somewhere outside HN lol.
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#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
XSLT is a template language where you match snippets of XML using XPath expressions and output... anything else, in this case HTML using templates that can make use of the attributes, inner content, etc. of the captured XML portion. "An elegant weapon for a more... civilized age."
> "An elegant weapon for a more... civilized age." One of the ideas people had back then was having a product catalog in XML that your tool would give you, and that you could upload to your website and display as a nice website via XSLT. It was such a fascinating technology when I learned about it, but I’m not sure if it ever saw any serious use? Maybe in enterprise?
Well, I'm having the ... pleasure ... of learning it now, as much of CheetahMail's templating system uses it (at least as initially configured by their professional services team. The company I work for just switched over and had them do the initial implementation). Just a data point.
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#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
Could it be due to some overly zealous prude filter and the unfortunate coincidence that "beej" is American slang for blowjob (oral sex)?
Actually outright porn is indexed you know or so I hear.
Indexed, but only returned if the search query was explicitly and unambiguously about porn.
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#155I may have found the answer, and I've seen this before (it happened to me once). It's when a different spam site copies your content wholesale, and a search engine decides they're the "original" site, and you're the spammy copycat. Because if you put the headlines (in quotes) from two of his recent articles into Bring, e.g. either "Megan Smith explaining the General Magic prototyping process" or "Denialists, Alarmist…
Recently on HN there was "Someone is proxy-mirroring my website, can I do anything?": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33952114 It feels like the Internet is a more hostile place than ever for small-time websites. You get squeezed from below by wily criminals, and crushed from above by careless megacorps who want to filter out anything that doesn't make them money.
> It feels like the Internet is a more hostile place than ever for small-time websites. You get squeezed from below by wily criminals, and crushed from above by careless megacorps who want to filter out anything that doesn't make them money.
The problem is that the two work hand-in-hand, thanks to the advertising driven search model, and the search engines owning the main advertising platforms.
It should be easy for search engines to identify an original site from the SEO spammer rip-offs - the original site is going to have no adverts (or certainly fewer) while the SEO spammer copies are going to be covered in adverts. The problem is that the search engines have no incentive to do so, in fact if anything they have the incentive to send people to the sites with more adverts.
And of course the whole problem has been created by the search engines in the first place - there would be no point in SEO spammers making advert-laden ripoff sites if it wasn't to rake in advertising revenue.
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#158I have exactly this problem. Beej's Guide to Network Programming is indexed just fine. Beej's Guide to C won't index. The automated tool says it's in violation of some unnamed rule, but I can't figure out which. There's zero SEO, tracking, or ads, and the content is educational and G-rated. All the other guides index just fine. I asked for a review and they came back with the same ambiguous message. Eventually I just…
Could it be due to some overly zealous prude filter and the unfortunate coincidence that "beej" is American slang for blowjob (oral sex)?
That's pretty obscure slang, I'm American and have never heard it.
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#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What should you do when another site copies your content like this then? Have we gotten to the point where websites (and their content) need to be verified like Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and TikTok do for personal accounts? If so, will search engines be the ones verifying - using this as a new revenue scheme (with the dangers inherent in this... ie; pay to be listed or ranked higher)?
No we’ve gotten to the point where Bing and DDG need disrupted. The answer is that these companies are ruining things not that DNS and simple search is wrong
I’ve moved from DDG to Kagi.com. It’s paid, but no ads and no incentives to remove legit sites that I’ve seen.