This is not a shadow ban. A shadow ban is when it appears to you that you are not banned, but from others perspective you are.
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#112Sites get de-indexed from DDG and Bing all the time because negative SEO attacks (intended for your Google traffic) have a devastating effect.
Why, Bing does not totally ignore bad links.
The good news, all sites I've seen affected by this recover after a few weeks.
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
When you first hear a term used, I think it's natural for people just try to figure out what it means in context without looking up the official definition (I've caught myself doing this subconsciously before). Imo a logical interpretation of "shadow ban" would be when you are banned but they didn't tell you they banned you, and regular "ban" is when they tell you you were banned. It makes enough sense that people do…
This… this is not a logical interpretation of shadow ban, at best it’s a random guess. Interpretation implies some understanding of the data
What makes "invisible to everyone but you" a more "logical" interpretation of "shadow ban" than "banned but didn't tell you"? Are shadows invisible to everyone but you?
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
IANAL either, but the DMCA has been used (by the RIAA, MPAA, and friends) to takedown pirate content on Google. I’d assume the same arguments would apply here. It can’t hurt to try.
Linking to a site that infringes copyrights may make the linker liable on the grounds that they are committing contributory copyright infringement. It's cheaper for search engines to delist sites than fight that battle--particularly if their corporate masters also rely on licensing media for distribution themselves.
IANAL but could this be what the spam site has done to get OP delisted?
Re: I'm shadow banned by DuckDuckGo and Bing
#115This is not a shadow ban. A shadow ban is when it appears to you that you are not banned, but from others perspective you are.
Clearly we need a new term. I nominate
Ghost Banned
or
Ghostdexed
Re: I'm shadow banned by DuckDuckGo and Bing
#116HN taught me first hand on how horrible shadow banning is. You all tolerate this here so it's mighty hypocritical of you to criticize Bing.
I'll say it again: It comes down to how you treat people. Treat others the way you want to be treated. No one wants to be shadowbanned and we can all agree it is a decidedly cowardly and cruel thing to do.
And you can't use "quality" or anything short of being coerced as an excuse. Techniques and technologies to moderate people without shadowmodding at scale are mot just there but very well established. A site for technologists has no excuse to shadowmod other than elitism amorality.
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#117This is not a shadow ban. A shadow ban is when it appears to you that you are not banned, but from others perspective you are.
That is what is happening, you think you are not showing up because bad SEO or better results. You have to find out through experimentatiom that you are restricted. The moderator didn't let you know that they have taken punitive action against you.
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#118I have exactly this problem. Beej's Guide to Network Programming is indexed just fine. Beej's Guide to C won't index. The automated tool says it's in violation of some unnamed rule, but I can't figure out which. There's zero SEO, tracking, or ads, and the content is educational and G-rated. All the other guides index just fine. I asked for a review and they came back with the same ambiguous message. Eventually I just…
It is interesting since Beej's guide is probably the most famous C/Unix programming tutorial after K&R.
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#119I have exactly this problem. Beej's Guide to Network Programming is indexed just fine. Beej's Guide to C won't index. The automated tool says it's in violation of some unnamed rule, but I can't figure out which. There's zero SEO, tracking, or ads, and the content is educational and G-rated. All the other guides index just fine. I asked for a review and they came back with the same ambiguous message. Eventually I just…
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
He’s kinda Trump-esque in his willingness to just redefine words (and basically pretend the original use never existed) to his own benefit and have his followers jump on board. Another great Elon example of this is Tesla’s “Autopilot.”
Trump-esque? what words has trump even done that for? Changing the meaning of words to fit what you want has been happening long before the printing press even was invented by people in power, vying for power, reporting on things they have a biased interest in or just wanting a quick win on an argument. Not everything needs to be a trump analogy.
Yeah I guess you’re right here. It’s more like they both go beyond ignoring the real world and just say whatever nonsense they feel like. Then they have a bunch of simps who won’t even question it.