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Post by lancesells »

foepys wrote: post #68
Tijdreiziger wrote: post #28

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The problem is that the alternative (Google) is worse.

Is it? With the Android Open Source Project you can create your own completely Google-free Android distribution that you can install on quite a lot of devices. Not that I like Google, I actually actively dislike it and hate all the anti-competitive things they did (with Android, too), but let's stay with the facts here.

> Project you can create your own completely Google-free Android distribution that you can install on quite a lot of devices

This is like saying you can eat for free for the rest of your life by just starting a farm. Sure, it's possible but it's out of the reach of most the population.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by Karunamon »

Spartan-S63 wrote: post #138
skeaker wrote: post #103

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Apple quite literally had a scandal where it was exposed in court that they deliberately slow older devices down to prematurely make them appear obsolete so that users will discard them sooner. I'm sure there are Android devices that do this too, but Apple really shouldn't be applauded for the longevity of their devices.

This is an incredibly disingenuous argument. Apple decided to underclock CPUs when the battery had aged to the point where consistent voltage couldn't be applied at maximum power. They did this so users wouldn't complain about their phone randomly crashing. Really, they were damned if they did and damned if they didn't. What you can criticize is that they did it without informing users or allowing an option — the law…

>You can argue they were doing it purposely for planned obsolescence, but evidence isn't really there to support it.

This is not a court of law and I am quite comfortable believing this was planned obsolescence for the simple that behaving in this way was advantageous to their profits. Otherwise it would not have taken lies (they initially denied the existence of the throttling!), outrage and lawsuits to do the right thing.

The alternative explanation is mass ignorance and/or incompetence on a level that would be hard to accept coming from Apple. Am I expected to seriously believe that nobody at Apple tested this throttle down behavior and saw (and likely measured) the impact on day-to-day performance?

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Post by standardUser »

jsnell wrote: post #8

This seems to have been announced a couple of weeks ago, so we don't need to just trust the tweet: https://www.macworld.com/article/1377200/apple-to-limit-aird... Having it open to everyone for only a limited amount of time actually kind of seems like the right thing, but it's hard to come up with a legit explanation for why they rushed that change to China first.

You know what actually makes sense? Creating a setting that the user can change as they see fit.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by skrowl »

webinvest wrote: post #83
jackmott42 wrote: post #45

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Their ethics are terrible. You pay $1000 for a computer, and you are only allowed to install software on it that Apple says you are allowed to. You can only pay for software on their own store. Complete bullshit, and it makes me sad that so many here on HN and elsehwere, tech people who learned to program because their 8088 was completely open and free to let you actually create things and learn about computing, so m…

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Do you personally know anyone who has been using the same iPhone for 8 years? I find that claim dubious.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by onlyrealcuzzo »

mhoad wrote: post #9

I don’t ever want to hear again how Apple is some champion of privacy and ethics. I’ve lost count of how many scandals have come out of their relationship with China from the suicide nets to the repeated investigations showing their supply chain was riddled with slave labor that they would later campaign against protections that would prevent it. Now this. They are fucked as a company, I can’t get out of their ecosys…

The problem is expecting companies to "do the right thing" and not "make money".

If there was ever a time companies were good stewards to the world - that time ended before I was born.

Yes, Apple is not doing the right thing.

Show me any fortune 100 company in the world that would do the right thing...

What's frustrating - I think - in this case, is the amount of Apple fanboys who insist that Apple is literally the incarnation of God as a company, existing solely to bring about harmony and make the world better through the iPhone, not to take your money and put it in their shareholders' pockets.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by jjtheblunt »

throwaway23597 wrote: post #2

Apple: where it's totally fine to build products with what amounts to slave labor, and aiding the CCP in censorship is totally cool too, but Twitter is far too dangerous to be allowed on the app store because a meanie is in charge of it.

what the product you typed that with built by a different contract manufacturer than whatever Apple uses?

(I don't know the set of all such)

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by baxtr »

Ok, so people jump directly to the conclusion that this was introduced because the CCP asked for it. Yet, if that was the case why limit it only? Why not ask for a complete stop? Is there a case where a protestor benefits from AirDrop but only if it’s more than 10 minutes?

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by lemonberry »

ASalazarMX wrote: post #89
yamtaddle wrote: post #59

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> You pay $1000 for a computer, and you are only allowed to install software on it that Apple says you are allowed to. For i-devices, yeah, true. > You can only pay for software on their own store. As nice as exposing the App store to more market effects might be, the app store monopoly enables them to force other companies to be less shitty on the platform (or else abandon it—but it's lucrative, so most don't), so i…

That also enables unreasonable monopolistic behavior, like not allowing ANY browser besides Safari. Why not allow alternative browser engines that follow strict privacy practices? What about native ad blockers? Why not encourage privacy-friendly apps that don't collect data by lowering/waiving their fees?

"like not allowing ANY browser besides Safari" are you saying this is potentially an issue? Because I have Chrome and Firefox installed on my iPhone and MacBook Air. I also have DuckDuckGo's browser on my iPhone.

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Post by madeofpalk »

tonystarch wrote: post #136
jackmott42 wrote: post #45

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Their ethics are terrible. You pay $1000 for a computer, and you are only allowed to install software on it that Apple says you are allowed to. You can only pay for software on their own store. Complete bullshit, and it makes me sad that so many here on HN and elsehwere, tech people who learned to program because their 8088 was completely open and free to let you actually create things and learn about computing, so m…

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There's plenty of Apple criticism on this site. So much so that I find it rather rote and boring to be honest - there's usually very little new or interesting brought up in these conversations, just the same criticism up over and over again.

HN is heavily moderated to promote what it sees as "high quality discussions", and Apple flamewars tend to be pretty low quality, so they're deranked.

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