Perhaps the articles author should employ a morphological chart to properly investigate the many different design solutions available to Samsung and everybody else before declaring Apple's design the definitive one: http://wikid.eu/index.php/Morphological_chart
Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it
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Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it
#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
His drawing of the "optimal" shape clearly shows that while the back is curved to follow the curve of the hand, the back is still symmetrical, so when the Pad is placed on the table, it lies flatly on the surface, and the front of the Pad is completely horizontal.
Two other key factors for the curved back: - unless you look at the device edge-on right at 90 degrees, it looks much thinner than it in fact is - when placed on the table, it gives a subtle illusion of floating. Both contribute to a subjective "wow!" response, where other practical designs don't.
And its easier to grab it. with flat surfieces one would be forced to push it till the edge of the surface, like when I try to pick up coins from table, PAIN!
Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it
#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
Doesn't matter. Design patents are about non-branded aesthetics. (A typeface can be design-patented because coming up with a beautiful typeface is hard. In many countries, including the US, typefaces can't be copyrighted.) But trademarks are about consumer confusion, i.e. consumers accidentally buy a Samsung tablet because they think they're buying an iPad, which has a reputation. Xuzz was commenting that he confused…
Design patents are about functionality. Design patents cannot cover function. That's what regular patents are for. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_patent#Comparison_to_ut...
Yea, I was lumping "aestetics" into "functionality" as opposed to trademarks, which are "informative". That was wrong terminology. I also was thinking that the readability of a typeface would be covered under a design patent, but upon reflection it would not.
Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it
#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you really think that, without the USB connector being nearly identical, that Apple wouldn't be taking them to court?
The point is that if they rip off the cable and port , which is easy to detect, it's hard to believe that they stopped there when taking inspiration from the most successful product in the space.
USB and PDMI are standard connectors. What part don't you understand? And, btw, how do you rip off the cable?
Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it
#155I consider Apple's design aesthetic to be the "mercedes" of phones, laptops, etc. I've never mistaken another car for a mercedes (I'm thinking of the e-class), nor have I ever mistaken another laptop for a macbook, nor have I ever mistaken another mp3 player for an ipad. i mistook someone using a samsung tablet for them using an ipad - I thought that's what it was, looking at them interacting with it fairly closely,…
Mercedes luxurious design of cars is nothing like Apple's design of tech.
Apple is BMW of computers and BMW is Apple of cars - just look at this and honestly tell me this is beautiful and simple:
http://l.yimg.com/dv/izp/mercedes_benz_e_class_e320_bluetec_...
Compare that to the 5er sedan of same year (if we go back to e60 of mid 2003 things look even worse for Mercs)
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/09/19-bmw...
I'm not even talking about A6
http://0.tqn.com/d/cars/1/0/1/P/1/09a6_interior.jpg
This is all personal I suppose, but I take issue when people relate Apple with Mercedes, just not the same level of attention to details between the two.
Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it
#156Am I the only one who hates design patents?
Wait, you're telling me you created a screen with rounded edges? There's probably over a 1,000 people who conceptually designed iPod/iPad type devices since the late 90s on.
None of this is new. It's absurd to claim it's original.
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#157I want these people who are running around saying there's no other way to design Samsung's stuff to explain to me one thing. Why, of all the devices on earth, does Samsung's tablet exactly mimic Apple's USB connector? I've got a Galaxy Tab sitting right next to me, here. The design isn't just similar, the dimensions are nearly identical. Explain it to me. Please. If you can offer a compelling case for why Samsung isn…
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Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it
#158I want these people who are running around saying there's no other way to design Samsung's stuff to explain to me one thing. Why, of all the devices on earth, does Samsung's tablet exactly mimic Apple's USB connector? I've got a Galaxy Tab sitting right next to me, here. The design isn't just similar, the dimensions are nearly identical. Explain it to me. Please. If you can offer a compelling case for why Samsung isn…
I have a Galaxy Tab, too and there is no USB connector. I'm quite sure of this because I had to buy a $20 add-on that hackishly turns the PDMI port into a USB port and looks freakishly ugly while doing so. PDMI is, of course, an industry standard.
I really wish they had put an actual USB port on the thing, or at least a place to put a micro SD card. But if anyone is copying Apple's whole "we don't believe in strain relief" nonsense, I really do hope they stop that. Damaged cables are not beautiful. They make the device look like junk.
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#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
So basically you are calling out people for their "design blindness" while at the same time you imply that no competing electronic device has ever been designed as well as anything Apple has ever made. I like Apple products too, but some of their competitors make awesome products from time to time.
Name one. Please, this is a serious question. I would truly love to have an Android phone, an Android tablet or a Linux-compatible laptop with the same design and build quality as an Apple product. I've pretty much given up on manufacturers that clearly don't want my money. Audio and tv electronics, no problem. Hell, I can even get beautifully designed alarm clocks, toasters and even friggin' designer humidifiers, so…
Before I give some examples, just remember that claiming one device has an overall better design is highly subjective. However, build quality is more easily recognized.
Asus' new Transformer Prime tablet is probably the best example of a product that matches or exceeds the build quality and design of an Apple product.
Asus' original transformer tablet, while not as thin or light as the iPad, was also an extremely well-built and stylish device. I think that I would actually prefer an iPad 2 over the original transformer, but that doesn't mean it isn't a nice piece of hardware.
Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it
#160I'm a bit late to this party...
I liked the article title but the article is weak. First of all, there are many ways to create a viable tablet. Apple's approach to enumerate the challenges/problems associated with the new form factor and then to solve them not come up with an ad hoc hack and to protect their unique patentable solutions.
At the same time, other companies were creating netbooks because they were to lazy to figure out how to design a fully functional computer and cram it into a notebook form factor.
Probably one of the key breakthroughs was their realization that it didn't need to be a full computer. Seems so obvious now doesn't it? Also that they needed to augment the current state of the touch based UI. All very obvious in retrospect.
If there is prior art then it will remove some of the violations. If you are going to post stuff like this, do the necessary research on when the iPad IP was patented.
Its appalling to see companies blatantly copying better technology and then selling it. They should respect it, either license the technology, develop their own or work on something that Apple hasn't done yet and isn't in the process of doing.