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Re: Solein – Protein out of thin air

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Post by arthur2e5 »

tuukkah wrote: post #149
ClumsyPilot wrote: post #147

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whichever - how can you have any form of ownership over a natural bacteria?

1) By keeping the bacteria a secret: not telling which bacteria can be used like this, not telling where you can find it in the nature, not giving anyone a piece of the bacteria culture to use. 2) By patenting the industrial process that makes use of the bacteria, thus gaining an exclusive commercial right to it.

It’s kept by patenting of the process involving the bacteria and the bioreactor, I think. Google Patent query: https://patents.google.com/?assignee=%22Solar+foods%22&oq=%2...

Now CA3153196A1 is the interesting one as it names Xanthobacter sp. VTT-E-193585 as the strain of interest. You even get a 16S rRNA sequence with it for doing some taxonomy! This is not to be confused with FI129574B involving a similar but genetically modified bacterium.

Re: Solein – Protein out of thin air

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Post by fidgetspinner »

koliber wrote: post #133
fidgetspinner wrote: post #124

Has anyone been able to locate the actual nutritional information in a serving size of this stuff? Actual carb, protein, and fat calorie counts, sugars, significant vitamins, etc?

Their other website ( https://solarfoods.com/science/ ) has some of the info you are looking for: PROTEIN 65-70 % FAT 5-8 % DIETARY FIBRES 10-15 % MINERAL NUTRIENTS 3-5%

Thanks. Would still be curious about .ore specific macronutrients for things not listed

Re: Solein – Protein out of thin air

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Post by elil17 »

arthur2e5 wrote: post #150
elil17 wrote: post #69

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This doesn’t use sunlight. It uses hydrogen gas as the energy carrier.

… Which makes knowing what microbe it’s using even more interesting. I mean, H2-eating microbes are quite common (and are likely how life started around seabed thermal vents), but making these things edible? (Patent says it’s a strain of Xanthobacter.)

There's no reason they wouldn't be edible. Things are usually inedible because either they have some compound that's meant to be very durable (lignin in wood), they have evolved to be poisonous (many plants and fungi). A H2-eating microbe probably has no reason to evolve either property.

Re: Solein – Protein out of thin air

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Post by justinator »

k__ wrote: post #94
nixonpjoshua1 wrote: post #93

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it was in 1918 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haber_process

"received the Nobel Prize in Chemistry in 1918 for his invention of the Haber–Bosch process," So, all good in HN land. Made my day, thanks.

He also invented Zyklon B.

Re: Solein – Protein out of thin air

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Post by MrYellowP »

otikik wrote: post #21
MrYellowP wrote: post #9

Sounds way too dystopian to be trustworthy, and there's no explanation why I would even WANT to eat this.

Try to think how dystopian the meat industry feels to a vegetarian or vegan person. That's the explanation.

We can't talk about this when you don't know what "dystopian" means.

Re: Solein – Protein out of thin air

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Post by MrYellowP »

washbrain wrote: post #44
MrYellowP wrote: post #9

Sounds way too dystopian to be trustworthy, and there's no explanation why I would even WANT to eat this.

In what way does this sound dystopian? Ideally this is a protein source without the nasty externalities of intensive agriculture and it can exist in places and spaces that aren't typically conducive to food production. Ideally, yes, plant based diets would dominate, but the idea of turning renewable energy into supplemental foodstuff sounds like a huge win to me.

I rather only eat things which actually grow,

and don't need to be produced,

instead of blindly accepting being told that something's good for me,

just because there's a lot of money behind it.

Re: Solein – Protein out of thin air

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Post by washbrain »

MrYellowP wrote: post #156
washbrain wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In what way does this sound dystopian? Ideally this is a protein source without the nasty externalities of intensive agriculture and it can exist in places and spaces that aren't typically conducive to food production. Ideally, yes, plant based diets would dominate, but the idea of turning renewable energy into supplemental foodstuff sounds like a huge win to me.

I rather only eat things which actually grow, and don't need to be produced, instead of blindly accepting being told that something's good for me, just because there's a lot of money behind it.

I guarantee you that you are eating things that are being produced. Unless you are getting all your calories and spices from small family farms.

Industrial agriculture is mining, not growing things.

Re: Solein – Protein out of thin air

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Post by gurchik »

huffer wrote: post #128
gurchik wrote: post #120

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Because it wasn't real. Cypher says ignorance is bliss but that's the opposite that everyone else feels. They'd rather eat slop they know is real. Even the suggestion of trying to go back to the Matrix willingly was seen as a betrayal. Mouse offers to set up a private meeting between Neo and the Lady in Red but he doesn't accept and we never heard of anyone else accepting.

But indeed, if they had the _option_ to escape from reality from time to time, people like Cypher would be happier (I know I am when I do it :D). Indeed the irony of partaking precisely in the thing that you fight against is there; however, what they actually fight against is the enslavement by it, not the casual enjoyment of it: it's bad to be a medieval serf forced to toil the soil, it's quite another thing to play…

To add to this, in most media that shows virtual reality, people who are addicted to it are also shown. Those people, even knowing it is not real, still enjoy riding roller coasters or whatever. Yet in The Matrix franchise there isn't a single person (that I know of) that is addicted to training programs or some such.

Re: Solein – Protein out of thin air

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Post by baryphonic »

ldoughty wrote: post #114
baryphonic wrote: post #107

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"It's not 'everything the body needs'..." (eyeroll)

I always took it as a list.... It has A, B, C, D... (Without the "and" before D, it is arguable -- especially for those that like clarity of language -- but people do sometimes drop the "and" in casual speech)

Oh, I was just quoting the next line of the movie.
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