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Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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post #42

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>However Russia failed to suppress and replicate YouTube that is the only massively popular Western platform in Russia. I'd say Instagram is as popular. Not sure about other services.

I'd say Pornhub is also pretty popular too. Don't ask me how I know it.

According to alexa xhamster is #1: https://external-preview.redd.it/1DoqXJyNWpUH1wldP4bkwMTCu9N...

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

#152

Hi, Russian here, located in Moscow. I don’t root for our president and current operation in UA is not something I like. I had to say words above, sorry, and that words are true since I am mostly committed to western values. Facebook would be restricted in Russia because they don’t allow gov to publish their views, opinion and their “truth”, like any other gov can. There are also intentions to block youtube and any o…

And I forgot to ask a question. Why do you think that we all should feel pain of sanctions? Because we are not able to stand against gov? Well, we are not able. And I think noone would be able if there is such a law and permissions of authorities. And for sure we, who know English(ok, not as good like any EU-person knows) and not working in gov-structures are the most small part of russians who have different opinion

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

#153
post #84
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In the 2000s and 2010s Russia lowered bandwidth on Western social media (and webmail) platforms to promote local alternatives. It worked and most Russians are not on Facebook, twitter and reddit. However Russia failed to suppress and replicate YouTube that is the only massively popular Western platform in Russia.

>In the 2000s and 2010s Russia lowered bandwidth on Western social media (and webmail) platforms to promote local alternatives. > It worked and most Russians are not on Facebook, twitter and reddit As a Russian, it's the first time I'm hearing about it. Do you have a source? My impression was that the early local alternatives became more popular because they were better tailored to local realities (better localizatio…

I wasn't able to find anything about Russia throttling Twitter, Facebook etc. in the early 2000s, in order to stifle or control competition. Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence, but I couldn't find anything about it.

Russia has throttled access to Twitter, listing pretty silly reasons, when really it was because they were in a lawsuit over Twitter not removing content they found objectionable. Here's a source for that: https://freedomhouse.org/country/russia/freedom-net/2021

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

#154

Hi, Russian here, located in Moscow. I don’t root for our president and current operation in UA is not something I like. I had to say words above, sorry, and that words are true since I am mostly committed to western values. Facebook would be restricted in Russia because they don’t allow gov to publish their views, opinion and their “truth”, like any other gov can. There are also intentions to block youtube and any o…

And I forgot to ask a question. Why do you think that we all should feel pain of sanctions? Because we are not able to stand against gov? Well, we are not able. And I think noone would be able if there is such a law and permissions of authorities. And for sure we, who know English(ok, not as good like any EU-person knows) and not working in gov-structures are the most small part of russians who have different opinion

> Why do you think that we all should feel pain of sanctions? Because we are not able to stand against gov? Well, we are not able.

Every person can. That's why sanctions exist: to incentivize a government to focus on its people and isolate a violent government from the world, or conversely, for a people to hold their government accountable.

What would you propose the world do instead of sanctions when diplomacy alone has clearly failed?

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

#155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It sounds as if you think FB should block things at Kremlin's behest, and since FB doesn't, it deserves to get blocked itself -- is that what you meant? (Or did you mean that therefore it was logical for Putin to block FB? Or, well, maybe you wrote something different from what you wanted to write, not being a native English speaker)

It is logical for Putin to block Facebook, but better under some pretext. I don't support Putin's policy in the slightest, up to the point of being detained by the police at a protest rallies.

Makes sense, apologies for the misinterpretation.

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

#156

Hi, Russian here, located in Moscow. I don’t root for our president and current operation in UA is not something I like. I had to say words above, sorry, and that words are true since I am mostly committed to western values. Facebook would be restricted in Russia because they don’t allow gov to publish their views, opinion and their “truth”, like any other gov can. There are also intentions to block youtube and any o…

And I forgot to ask a question. Why do you think that we all should feel pain of sanctions? Because we are not able to stand against gov? Well, we are not able. And I think noone would be able if there is such a law and permissions of authorities. And for sure we, who know English(ok, not as good like any EU-person knows) and not working in gov-structures are the most small part of russians who have different opinion

> Why do you think that we all should feel pain of sanctions?

We want Russia to stop their criminal war on Ukraine. Either by government action, open revolt or a population starving in the streets. The only other option is nuclear holocaust.

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

#157
post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>In the 2000s and 2010s Russia lowered bandwidth on Western social media (and webmail) platforms to promote local alternatives. > It worked and most Russians are not on Facebook, twitter and reddit As a Russian, it's the first time I'm hearing about it. Do you have a source? My impression was that the early local alternatives became more popular because they were better tailored to local realities (better localizatio…

I wasn't able to find anything about Russia throttling Twitter, Facebook etc. in the early 2000s, in order to stifle or control competition. Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence, but I couldn't find anything about it. Russia has throttled access to Twitter, listing pretty silly reasons, when really it was because they were in a lawsuit over Twitter not removing content they found objectionable. Here's a sour…

Facebook founded in 2003 and got its name in 2004. Wasn’t noticeable in Russia until 2010s, was cloned and outcompeted by VK. Still popular only because Vk is now controlled by government (VK is simply a better platform). Twitter was founded in 2006, so in the early 2000s it simply did not exist. Has never been a big thing in Russia, even when Medvedev got an account. Government started paying any attention to social networks only after Medvedev was elected (or was that actually LiveJournal?), but I’m not sure they were taking it seriously until 2012, when Bolotnaya happened.

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

#158

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> They like to think they are free and above the hypocrisy of the west. This statement shows you have no idea what Russians like to think. Better stop embarrassing yourself further with such opinions. Source: I'm actually Russian.

Enlighten us then.

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Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

#159

Hi, Russian here, located in Moscow. I don’t root for our president and current operation in UA is not something I like. I had to say words above, sorry, and that words are true since I am mostly committed to western values. Facebook would be restricted in Russia because they don’t allow gov to publish their views, opinion and their “truth”, like any other gov can. There are also intentions to block youtube and any o…

Why do you use the Putin propaganda euphemism "current operation" and not just call it an invasion or war of aggression.

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

#160

Hi, Russian here, located in Moscow. I don’t root for our president and current operation in UA is not something I like. I had to say words above, sorry, and that words are true since I am mostly committed to western values. Facebook would be restricted in Russia because they don’t allow gov to publish their views, opinion and their “truth”, like any other gov can. There are also intentions to block youtube and any o…

And I forgot to ask a question. Why do you think that we all should feel pain of sanctions? Because we are not able to stand against gov? Well, we are not able. And I think noone would be able if there is such a law and permissions of authorities. And for sure we, who know English(ok, not as good like any EU-person knows) and not working in gov-structures are the most small part of russians who have different opinion

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