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Australia to introduce new laws to force media platforms to unmask online trolls

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Re: Australia to introduce new laws to force media platforms to unmask online trolls

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But both of the two main parties do relatively the same shit. It’s like choosing between Pump water or Mount Franklin… either way you get a raw deal.

While there are upsides to compulsory voting this is one of its downsides IMO. Because you can't "refrain to vote" the parties know all they have to be is slightly better than the alternative and they will get your vote. In some ways it entrenches the two-party preferred system and means they only have to differentiate on minor issues. In the end they don't have to be good to get your vote, they just have to be sligh…

I don’t really agree. All parties monitor the flow of preferences very carefully and this is an important means for the electorate to signal the need for change. Plus, not voting is not the same as voting differently.

We are also witnessing a significant shift to minor and independent parties, as voters are apparently becoming less affiliated with specific parties over time. Most people I know consider their vote carefully, even if they don’t vote the way I do.

In any case, while the Australian system is far from perfect, it does lend greater legitimacy to the incumbent government, and has the effect that if the government you personally voted for does something you don’t like, next time you’re more likely to vote differently.

Re: Australia to introduce new laws to force media platforms to unmask online trolls

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>The online world should not be a wild west where bots and bigots and trolls and others are anonymously going around and can harm people I can't express how much I hate this. The online world SHOULD be a wild west, away from government reach, in my opinion.

Wildcatting and privateering are better analogies. The entire ecosystem is motivated more by wealth transfer than societal good.

Re: Australia to introduce new laws to force media platforms to unmask online trolls

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I'd be more impressed if Austalia went after the outrage barons. Murdock, Zuck, Dorsey, etc.

Targeting the bots (et al) and ignoring the barons is the failed war on drugs strategy redux. Toss drug users in jail while sucking up to cartel heads at celebrity charity fund raisers.

Re: Australia to introduce new laws to force media platforms to unmask online trolls

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Australian exports to the European union will suffer. There will be no nuclear subs here for decades, if ever. We'll be given second hand dross before the new subs arrives., and it bears mentioning the French subs were nuclear, and retrofitted with diesel to meet this contract. The French subs need recharging. The US and UK offer are single charge for life. It's a five eyes con. We pissed off the Japanese to take the…

Great, thanks for sharing your opinion. Because thats all it is.

like everyone else's yours included.

Re: Australia to introduce new laws to force media platforms to unmask online trolls

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To get to the truth of the matter, we will need to agree on what's actually happening. The phrase "concentration camp" provokes imagery of Nazi Germany, with overtones of the most egregious human rights violations. What happened, in actuality, is that the Howard Springs mining camp was repurposed for quarantine. People have opted to go there instead of hotel quarantine. They are there for a total of 14 days, at which…

I understand the imagery is extremely disturbing, and the worst nightmares of the idea of a concentration camp, which are actually extermination camps, is not what is being executed at the moment by the Australian government, but the fact is, it's a concentration camp all the same. The idea existed long before Nazi Germany and has been executed many places outside it since. Even if it were absolutely true that every…

>I'm planning to renounce my citizenship over it ASAP and would rather die than return

This is just kind of hilarious. I have no other words.

OP please just stay off facebook

Re: Australia to introduce new laws to force media platforms to unmask online trolls

#157

Are there provisions to prevent it being used to locate government critics?

On the contrary:

"If it’s in the public interest, the Commonwealth Government can intervene in these cases on the side of the defamed person against the social media company.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison said the government would proactively search for such cases to intervene in."

Taken from: https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/new-australian-la...

Re: Australia to introduce new laws to force media platforms to unmask online trolls

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There should be both. There should be wild free parts for grownups who can't easily be traumatized, manipulated or tricked and also fenced gardens for those vulnerable (kids, grannies, religious etc whoever is easily trollable). Places where every non-techie goes nowadays (i.e. Facebook) should be censored and guarded strictly, the rest should be free and wild.

Yes I'm sure those non-techies would happily agree that they need to be censored but we do not.

In the model I propose they are not forced to be censored. As soon as they feel like stepping out of the kindergarten they can do just that.

Re: Australia to introduce new laws to force media platforms to unmask online trolls

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I understand the imagery is extremely disturbing, and the worst nightmares of the idea of a concentration camp, which are actually extermination camps, is not what is being executed at the moment by the Australian government, but the fact is, it's a concentration camp all the same. The idea existed long before Nazi Germany and has been executed many places outside it since. Even if it were absolutely true that every…

>I'm planning to renounce my citizenship over it ASAP and would rather die than return This is just kind of hilarious. I have no other words. OP please just stay off facebook

Facebook is where people were defending the behaviour, not where I heard about it. That was circling in more obscure smaller libertarian circles as an example of the escalating insanity of Australia.

The defense of the behaviour has indeed also caused me to stay off facebook, though.

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