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Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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I know this is a bit of a tangent, but I'm getting tired of having everything good replaced by a mediocre version that offers debatable convenience. A meh guitar tuner, a phone tree that usually understands my spoken choices, the opportunity to enter my claim information online and be questioned by an impersonal overseas operator later instead of just talking with my agent — none of these are developments that improv…

Workaround: You can force most of those phone trees into a failsafe button pressing mode by pressing 0 until it gives up on voice. You shouldn't have to play the system to make it work reasonably, but...

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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I don't understand. People would rather spend a day per week working on google's stuff than their own project?

Working on your own projects won't get you promoted I would guess.

Unless that project is a messaging app.

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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OP is dissing one app, but making a generalised comment on all software apps in the tuner/metronome category. There is no shortage of well done apps that cost very little (most of them cheaper than the cheapest korg tuner) and packing in way more functionality. If OP's comment was something to the tune (heh) of "I tried a bunch of paid top-rated apps and I prefer my hardware tuner", I'd consider it a fair comparison.

> There is no shortage of well done apps that cost very little (most of them cheaper than the cheapest korg tuner) and packing in way more functionality. Name three. The problem with app stores (both Google's and Apple's) is that it's impossible to find those good quality apps for commodity needs, in the sea of advertisement/IAP-backed garbage.

I can’t name three because the first one I bought is perfect for my needs on iOS. Guitar Tuna https://apps.apple.com/us/app/guitartuna-guitar-bass-tuner/i...

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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About 20 years ago I bought my first digital guitar tuner, a Korg, that is about the size of a deck of cards. It had a monochrome LCD screen that mimicked an analog dial with a needle that moved to indicate flat or sharp. Years passed. Guitar tuning apps became a thing. I downloaded a few over the years. Then the one (free) one I had started showing ads. Little by little, update by update, the ads became more annoyin…

To add to that, I suppose I'm far from an expert, but I'd suggest that it's worthwhile for any musician to learn how to use a tuning fork.

Maybe not to start with, and those Snark tuners certainly are indispensable if you need to tune your instrument in a noisy environment. And perhaps I'm just showing my age here. (We didn't have digital tuners when I was a kid, or at least I could never afford one.) But I would guess that learning how to tune your instrument the analog way is a useful step in developing your musical ear.

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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About 20 years ago I bought my first digital guitar tuner, a Korg, that is about the size of a deck of cards. It had a monochrome LCD screen that mimicked an analog dial with a needle that moved to indicate flat or sharp. Years passed. Guitar tuning apps became a thing. I downloaded a few over the years. Then the one (free) one I had started showing ads. Little by little, update by update, the ads became more annoyin…

As a non-guitarist but one-time musician, why are guitar tuners needed? Other stringed instruments seem to not need them, and I never thought to ask. (Obviously you might need an absolute reference if you don't have absolute pitch)

My (guitar, hohner) trem will still drop the strings off the fretboard, and can raise the tuning up about a 4th. Add lights in a show, over time..something might drift - or, in a jam (as in session) with no keyboards - the bass may drift out and you have to retune. Happy to say, my strings are >15 years old! Dinged and dented, and very bent (fretwear), i refuse to change them only on principle. After all that, i have a piezo tuner, my pedals have tuners, but i much prefer (in a live situation, especially) using a my ears over a machine - an 'on' snaredrum will soon get those beats beating.

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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I also heard that professional musicians - guitarists as well - can tune their instrument by ear. Pianos need regular tuning too, done by experts - they change tone depending on weather, temperature and humidity as well, so they have to be in a stable environment if at all possible. But these people can mostly tune them by ear, or they will have a tune fork for the base tone (A I believe) and work from there.

Yeah 95% or more will need a tuning fork at a minimum to give a frame of reference. It is fairly common for strings accompanied by a piano to ask for a note from the piano to start from (G for violin say)

In the case of ensembles with a piano, I've heard it's because you can't retune the piano in the minutes before the performance. So it makes no sense for musicians to tune to a fork (or using an electric tuner) and leave the piano out of tune, so they all take the key tone from the piano

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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About 20 years ago I bought my first digital guitar tuner, a Korg, that is about the size of a deck of cards. It had a monochrome LCD screen that mimicked an analog dial with a needle that moved to indicate flat or sharp. Years passed. Guitar tuning apps became a thing. I downloaded a few over the years. Then the one (free) one I had started showing ads. Little by little, update by update, the ads became more annoyin…

You are dissing a product that you didn't pay money for, and comparing it unfavorably to one that you did. How is that fair. There are metronome and tuner apps that are way more pleasant and functional than any hardware product, if you could shell out just a few bucks (< $10). You also have fewer batteries to manage.

But think about the "exposure" you're getting by giving away your app for free.

(Musician joke)

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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I can't understand why people self-censor them; I mean you didn't figure out goddamn, but it's insulting to believe people can't parse what f*k or s*t refers to. Swearing is allowed on here, you won't get banned. And we're all adults here, we won't be shocked or offended by bad language. Alternatively, don't swear at all, there's plenty of other ways to express yourself. But don't do this shitty middle-ground bleepin…

My favourite kind of useless censorship is things like "st*pid cunt"

It's the mark of a progressive Australian!

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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You are dissing a product that you didn't pay money for, and comparing it unfavorably to one that you did. How is that fair. There are metronome and tuner apps that are way more pleasant and functional than any hardware product, if you could shell out just a few bucks (< $10). You also have fewer batteries to manage.

Just searching for tuner apps, in the first 10 or so results there were no options for me without ads or without "upgrade to pro" or "subscribe to us" or "3 days trial". The first three had an ad-free option around 10-15 dollars to unlock, which is fair but the price of a good hardware tuner that will certainly last WAY longer than any of those apps and will operate 10x better. The first one without the subscription…

you guys are such a bunch of entitled brats

"NAH 10euros for a tuner that's all the time on me but maybe not perfect is WAY TOO MUCH."

omg. as a guitarist the apps were life changing considering i lose my tuner every two month and forget to take it anyway one every two rehearsal. Be grateful.

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