Death to FB messenger and WhatsApp ?
Why?
FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web
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#152Apple is trailing behind Google, Samsung, and Microsoft - all their "new" features are a catching up with the market leaders.
Hardly, the second screen functionality of samsung's tablets only work with windows 10 last I checked. Many of the continuity features that apple has been and continues to roll out are not present on the android platform at all and in the cases where they are (like second screen) they are to use a technical term, janky.
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#153A lot of Apple's previous attempts at "web apps" have been pretty half-arsed. Including Apple Music currently. Let's see if this is any different. I'm currently using Signal on Windows/Android/iOS and apart from two annoyances it is fine. - No gif support on Windows (Android/iOS only) - Cannot add a second phone but can add a tablet. As soon as it detects a SIM card slot (with or without SIM in it) it only allows you…
> Including Apple Music currently.
Oh god. The Apple Music web app is so incredibly bad. Hands out the worst web experience I've ever had. It flat out cannot do its function (play music) reliably at all. I’m so confused why they thought it was shippable - they should be embarrassed that this is something they released to paying customers. It’s terrible.
It made me switch to Spotify.
Re: FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web
#154Apple is trailing behind Google, Samsung, and Microsoft - all their "new" features are a catching up with the market leaders.
Hardly, the second screen functionality of samsung's tablets only work with windows 10 last I checked. Many of the continuity features that apple has been and continues to roll out are not present on the android platform at all and in the cases where they are (like second screen) they are to use a technical term, janky.
Sorry, forgot Microsoft and added it.
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#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
Among iPhone users, iMessage is heavily used as it's simply the most pleasant solution out there for messaging. For what it's worth, I'm in South Africa and about 95% of my friends have iPhones. WhatsApp is very popular here, but for chatting I probably check WhatsApp three times a day, and I use iMessage almost continuously.
> For what it's worth, I'm in South Africa and about 95% of my friends have iPhones. You seem to be a very strange bubble: https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/south-afri...
Just a hunch but if you Google “South Africa rich poor divide” it might seem a little less strange.
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#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
So, tens of millions of people. Seems like a reasonable strategy for attracting non-iOS users to the iOS ecosystem by enabling their massive user base to exert social pressure.
Or they could attract those users by making a better product?
Try before you buy.
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#157Wow. That is unexpected. I have to say that FaceTime in a browser sandbox is one of the few Apple products I would consider using. I wonder what made them take this path? I also wonder if someone could build a Matrix bridge if it is available via web, that would be fairly cool. Some questions: - Is it phone-number based IDs? Or can I pick a username or get a random ID? - Is spam going to be a problem? Previous Apple…
This is a honest question, so, what is so good about FaceTime? I have not used an iPhone since version 3GS, so it has been a while, but I understand it is just something similar to whatsapp video calls, google meet, or even zoom?
What people said in sibling posts was true before today. Now we'll also have spatial audio, music sharing, video sharing, controls to filter out noise (or not) in real time and other cool features. Although not on the Web I expect.
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#158Steve Jobs notably said FaceTime was built to be an open standard when he introduced it on June 7, 2010 .
It's suspected that this was thwarted by the VirnetX lawsuit. And Apple had to do a "design around" [2]. https://www.cnet.com/news/steve-jobs-promised-to-make-faceti... [2] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/08/report-after-pat...
I doubt this actually matters, but it looks like almost all those patents expire very soon.
US7418504B2 - 2021-08-05
US6839759B2 - 2019-10-29 (expired)
US7490151B2 - 2022-01-24
I'm guessing rearchitecting to circumvent the patents means they're not going to unrearchitect just to open it up. If I'm understanding things correctly, instead of p2p it gets tunneled through a server to avoid the patents. Since FaceTime launched, most services realized with more than 2 people you'd want to go through a server anyway (and you also get benefits of re-encoding for lower bit-rates). If you rely on Apple's servers to tunnel your call I imagine they're not going to open it up.
Re: FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web
#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is a honest question, so, what is so good about FaceTime? I have not used an iPhone since version 3GS, so it has been a while, but I understand it is just something similar to whatsapp video calls, google meet, or even zoom?
I see from the responses that one thing that is omitted is the clearly higher audio/video quality. I had someone call me on facebook messenger, but had to ask them to call me on facetime purely because of quality, and its not the first time. As with all Apple products "it just works". I wonder if that may change when it goes to the web.
More than quality, Facetime seems to have much lower latency for me than other options, and this leads to much more natural-feeling conversations.
Re: FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web
#160A lot of Apple's previous attempts at "web apps" have been pretty half-arsed. Including Apple Music currently. Let's see if this is any different. I'm currently using Signal on Windows/Android/iOS and apart from two annoyances it is fine. - No gif support on Windows (Android/iOS only) - Cannot add a second phone but can add a tablet. As soon as it detects a SIM card slot (with or without SIM in it) it only allows you…
>- Cannot add a second phone but can add a tablet. As soon as it detects a SIM card slot (with or without SIM in it) it only allows you to set it up as the primary device, rather than a secondary like a tablet. This is so infuriating. I can have Signal with the same account on my phone, my macbook pro, and my windows desktop, but not my iPad Pro. It doesn't even have a SIM card in it. Just an empty slot.
Strange. I have an iPad Pro with 4G data and tablet mode works fine.