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Re: Google removes its head of diversity after 2007 blog post surfaces

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For anyone who is interested, the actual blog post on his website was deleted. It's available on the Way Back Machine: https://web.archive.org/web/20210601160519/https://www.kamau...

Doesn't look deleted to me? http://kamaubobb.blogspot.com/2007/11/if-i-were-jew.html

Re: Google removes its head of diversity after 2007 blog post surfaces

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post #97

One of the reasons I use HN is because of the No Political or Ideological fights rule (because I know I can't stop commenting from time to time even though I'd rather live a life without this crap). I wish rules were here to be enforced, not as guidelines hardly anyone follow.

HN has a “no-politics” rule? That’s absolute hilarious. This place is nothing but politics.

Re: Google removes its head of diversity after 2007 blog post surfaces

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post #22

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Being Jewish is also multi-tiered because it's associated with both a religion and an ethnicity. I'd love to popularize being thought of Ashkenazi and not Jewish. I don't have a familial bond with Israel for probably 17 centuries and I don't really care if I ever did. My culture is more strongly associated with Eastern Europe and we were run out of town on a rail 100 years ago.

If you were your ancestors who were "run out of town on a rail" you would care very, very deeply about your familial bond to Israel. Like yours, my family was run out of town. Unlike yours, many in my family did not run fast enough. If only there was a place they could run to either as first resort or when quota had been reached in other places. If only there was a place that could make running a specific people out…

There are plenty of non-zionist people who survived the Holocaust, it is disingenuous to paint caring about Israel as the natural, inevitable reaction to the Holocaust.

The whole concept of having a natural "homeland" because of your DNA/ethnicity/race is bullshit, land doesn't care what color your skin is or what religion you practice.

Re: Google removes its head of diversity after 2007 blog post surfaces

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post #119
post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, there is an association and a Head of Diversity should be smart enough to not generalize based on this association; it's failure to satisfy the core requirement of the professional role.

Well it was published 14 years ago. He was probably in college or something when he wrote it. Not giving him a pass or anything, just pointing out he didn’t write in while in his current role.

If he had ever changed that view you'd really hope he would have gone back and updated that essay.

Re: Google removes its head of diversity after 2007 blog post surfaces

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Here is a classic case of someone conflating the state of Israel and Jewish people and lumping it all together. Plenty of Jewish people that live both inside and outside of Israel are critical of the state. People can be critical of the state of Israel, but they should not be antisemitic. His comments are offensive for this reason.

Can you quote where exactly they are "conflating the state of Israel and Jewish people and lumping it all together."?

>Plenty of Jewish people that live both inside and outside of Israel are critical of the state.

Is this not exactly what this thought experiment of an article is talking about? Trying to put themselves on the shoes of a Jewish person who is critical of Israels politics

Re: Google removes its head of diversity after 2007 blog post surfaces

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post #121

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You are in a tread this very moment that shows proof of his opinion.

In what way? Most people here seem to agree that it is perfectly possible to criticize Israel without being anti-semitic.

We'll have to agree to disagree as I have yet to see an example of this on HN. In my experience 100% of submissions (and comments) critical of Israel gets spammed by people saying it is antisemitism.

Re: Google removes its head of diversity after 2007 blog post surfaces

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Here is a classic case of someone conflating the state of Israel and Jewish people and lumping it all together. Plenty of Jewish people that live both inside and outside of Israel are critical of the state. People can be critical of the state of Israel, but they should not be antisemitic. His comments are offensive for this reason.

People can be critical of the state of Israel, but they should not be antisemitic. Theoretically, I guess, but it's really strange how the one tiny country in the whole world that has a Jewish-dominated society is so often a target for complete destruction. Many of the same countries that have all but eliminated their own Jewish populations somehow find Israel's very existence to be unpalatable, going after them in t…

That’s a huge straw man.

I am critical of some of Israel’s behavior, but by no means calling for its complete destruction.

Re: Google removes its head of diversity after 2007 blog post surfaces

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So, it took some digging, but here is the text https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:luIscB... As you can see, it's a quite well written critique of Israel, and it is definitely NOT anti-Semitic. I find it quite ironic that it took Google's cache to find the thing Google itself wants canceled

Kamau Bobb has removed ALL of his blog posts. I think he himself is afraid of the reaction of many of the things he's written.

Re: Google removes its head of diversity after 2007 blog post surfaces

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post #83
post #30

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>>People can be critical of the state of Israel, but they should not be antisemitic. As long as you (the general you, not you specifically) subject all countries that (allegedly) mistreat their citizens or neighbouring countries to the same level of criticism. When you single out the world's only Jewish state for criticism it looks kinda racist.

You can't even describe other states as "the world's only German state", or "French state" or "Polish state", "Russian state" etc. because racism, so what are we even talking about?

1. There's a lot of irony in your statement, since Jewish people were slaughtered and horribly mistreated in those other countries simply for being Jewish. So how have they not been ethno-states... or at least "anti-specific-ethno states"?

2. There are plenty of countries that are dominated by Islam, and yet their right to exist isn't generally questioned.

Re: Google removes its head of diversity after 2007 blog post surfaces

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post #56

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This is by design. Israel and spent years associating the _state_ of Israel with Judaism. That way you can’t criticize Israel without being labeled and anti-Jewish semite. Nothing he posted was offensive. Israel is an apartheid state

Yes, there is an association and a Head of Diversity should be smart enough to not generalize based on this association; it's failure to satisfy the core requirement of the professional role.

Everyone should know 10 years in advance to write nuanced posts.
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