Has anyone read Daemon / Freedom by Suarez?
There's a part where a compound filled with armed guards are assaulted by driverless motorbikes wielding swords.
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#152Really interesting concept. I like the general lines of the bike. Looks really well thought out/clean sheet mechanical design.
Two points of contention:
1) After putting over 40k+ miles on various bikes, I never once wished there was a self balancing feature to make it stand up on its own. At a stop light; I put my foot down; at a really long stop light, I put the kickstand down.
If the self balancing feature can function as form of driver aid. Meaning you declarivity tell the bike "I want this line with this apex"; then the bike will follow through with it's active systems. That would be wild.
2) The device right behind the rider gives me goosebumps. In a crash; seems like a great way to break your back and be pinned in the bike.
Background data:MechE background. Owned and crashed high CC several motorcycles. I'm doing totally fine healthwise; just really lucky.
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#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
To me the sound of those big bikes is a form of terrorism. They rise my blood pressure, increase stress levels and make me hate. Try living somewhere where every 20 minutes such bikes make the windows of your flat shake and you can't hear your TV or your partner talking until the bike is gone. Why do I have to suffer this every day of my life? I can't wait until the ICE is part of our primitive past.
I understand that performance engines need unobstructed exhausts up to a certain point, but pipes tuned to amplify this sound is distracting at best, damaging your ears at worst. I don't like them. They become hazardous in tunnels, underpasses and other closed spaces. Ultra loud pipes kill my ears' locating capabilities and I can't mentally place the motorcycle to the correct place so I won't unintentionally endanger…
Hear hear. Noise pollution is one of the biggest reasons why I never want to live in a city again. And loud-pipe motorcycles are by far the biggest contributor to that—more than garbage trucks, delivery vehicles, truck engine (jake) brakes, or even sirens (except in New York where the sirens are inexplicably loud even outside the urban canyons of Manhattan).
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#154As a former daily rider, I'm incredibly excited about this vision.
I do wonder immediately about safety. In crashes, separation from the bike is almost always good for the rider. Being strapped in via the hip harness sounds incredibly dangerous.
I wouldn't ride that faster than a SLOW walking speed in it's current iteration. I don't care how good the AI is. No surprise there are no demos of anyone riding this at speed.
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#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
> To me the sound of those big bikes is a form of terrorism Small bikes are way worse. These 50cc two stroke engines, often illegally modified with loud exhaust. Not only they are as loud if not louder than a big motorbike but they are so slow they linger around for a while, often it populated area like cities. They are popular in France because you only need to be 14 to ride one (vs 18 for cars) and you don't need a…
I believe that by "the sound of those big bikes" the commenter does not know the bike characteristics other than by their sound, so it's the same either with a physically small or big bike: what he is stating is that he does not like the big sound. That's true that there are big as well as small bikes with an horrendous sound, they are equally harmful. I agree that they should very quickly belong to history (or museu…
You are right. Big or small bikes, buses, trucks or a driver trying to quickly burn as much fuel as possible in their car are all disturbing.
A difference is that some of them are not trying to be loud on purpose while others are. That's what triggers me. Their violence.
If smoking is not allowed I don't understand why this is, or why rules are not enforced. Changing homes is much harder than changing sidewalks.
At least there's hope. Seeing silent electric bikes go by makes me smile.
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#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
I owned ride 6-7 different motorcycles, and I believe there's a special place in hell for those who put on loud aftermarket exhausts. Sure, it sounds nice to them . It shows an astonishing disregard to thousands of other people they impact daily. Let alone your next 10 neighbour houses who put up with it on consistent basis. ... :O There's no increased safety factor - there's no real location or distance clue such lo…
I noticed that people on more powerful bikes crash way more often for their own lack of driving skill, than the other way around. Lost count to seeing scenes like kids on H2Rs "crashing" into something at like just above pedestrian speeds. It takes a lot of skill to drive a powerful, and heavy motorcycle. It's definitely should not be your first, or even second machine. I'm myself on two-wheelers for 15 years still f…
Bigger more powerful bikes usually have flatter torque curves which make the bike easier to control.
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#157I can’t wait for electric motorbikes to be more diverse and advanced. I used to be a “my loud exhaust helps me to be seen” kinda guy. Until one day, sat in standstill traffic in my car on the M74 motorway just outside Glasgow, a rider on a BMW S1000XR, with the same loud exhaust as on mine, filtered past the window and I didn’t hear him until he was level with my rear passenger door. Exhausts sound great, i love the…
I owned ride 6-7 different motorcycles, and I believe there's a special place in hell for those who put on loud aftermarket exhausts. Sure, it sounds nice to them . It shows an astonishing disregard to thousands of other people they impact daily. Let alone your next 10 neighbour houses who put up with it on consistent basis. ... :O There's no increased safety factor - there's no real location or distance clue such lo…
Modifying the exhaust can add power which is why you never see stock exhausts at the track. But for most riders, the performance improvement is barely noticable.
I'm saying this as someone that had an aftermarket exhaust on all of 3 of my street bikes and one of my dirt bikes.
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#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
I owned ride 6-7 different motorcycles, and I believe there's a special place in hell for those who put on loud aftermarket exhausts. Sure, it sounds nice to them . It shows an astonishing disregard to thousands of other people they impact daily. Let alone your next 10 neighbour houses who put up with it on consistent basis. ... :O There's no increased safety factor - there's no real location or distance clue such lo…
I noticed that people on more powerful bikes crash way more often for their own lack of driving skill, than the other way around. Lost count to seeing scenes like kids on H2Rs "crashing" into something at like just above pedestrian speeds. It takes a lot of skill to drive a powerful, and heavy motorcycle. It's definitely should not be your first, or even second machine. I'm myself on two-wheelers for 15 years still f…
I rode moto-x as a teenager for about 4 years so I would, back then, class myself as reasonably skilled. Yet the first time on a proper big road bike scared the hell out of me and I never went any further. From then on it was 4 wheels all the way.
Not surprised in the least that there are so many accidents.
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#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
I owned ride 6-7 different motorcycles, and I believe there's a special place in hell for those who put on loud aftermarket exhausts. Sure, it sounds nice to them . It shows an astonishing disregard to thousands of other people they impact daily. Let alone your next 10 neighbour houses who put up with it on consistent basis. ... :O There's no increased safety factor - there's no real location or distance clue such lo…
I always assumed that the point of loud vehicles was to assert dominance by being an asshole. If people are annoyed and upset then it is working exactly as intended. You have provoked an emotion that fuels your ego and image of yourself as a bad ass that doesn't care about other people.
This explains a lot of modern day behaviour, thanks for pointing out what should have been obvious. Yet here I have been all these years thinking these people didn't realise what they were doing.
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I obviously don't talk to enough bikers. This is the first timeI have even heard the idea, I'm 57 and certainly have known a lot of books riders, that people like loud bikes because they think it makes them safer.
We make it illegal to eat or use cell phones while driving because distracted driving is dangerous, yet it's ok to rattle everyone's windows with your Harley. Even if somehow it is 'safer' for the biker it's definitely not for everyone else.
It’s not “ok”, we have the same laws against loud exhausts. They’re just not enforced. Why? I have no idea. Should be easier to enforce than cellphones.