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Facebook still ‘secretly’ tracks your iPhone

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Re: Facebook still ‘secretly’ tracks your iPhone

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Beginning to think the reason security is so difficult is because ostensibly "good" companies do everything an attacker does and worse, but under the guise of EULAs. Here's a thought experiement: If Facebook were malware, could you get rid of it?

Yes, but only if everyone else was convinced it was malware, too.

"Facebook invades privacy" is still a minority opinion among their user base (whether we like it or not).

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i use jailbreak to control my location better - i can more easily de/activate it and spoof my location. Now, I noticed a weird behaviour. I am not sure if its a 'bug' due to jailbreak, or if it shows how apps can access location. The setup is as follows: location services are completely deactivated system-wide. a spoof location is set. This means, I am not able in any way to access/share my location, neither the real…

It's not obvious. You are uploading a photo to send to a friend, you don't know or expect that where this photo was taken is automatically used by Facebook to target you. Hell, most people wouldn't even know that the EXIF has the location.

I remember sending Apple Live photos to friends when "live" photos first came out.

It wasn't 6+ months later that I realized audio was also embedded in live photos. I just never noticed because my phone is always on silent mode.

The realization that I was sending audio clips to friends and family along with photos for months and month was... unnerving.

It's a problem when tech becomes so complex that the average (or in my case, even the above average) tech user can't keep up.

Re: Facebook still ‘secretly’ tracks your iPhone

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Unfortunately it's not that simple for everyone. I personally would lose contact with a lot of people if I delete Messenger or Whatsapp. On all my contacts, I have two on Signal, zero on Matrix.

It is though. It's astonishing how little people are willing to sacrifice for their ideals. If you don't have an issue with Facebook then disregard and continue using their services. If you do have a problem then try being the change you want to see. Tend your garden. You cannot control other people but you can control yourself.

Facebook benefits a lot from a martyr-or-submission choice, but we don't have to play their game.

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Not if you don’t install any of their apps. I use it as a web site which is enough to post pics of kids for relatives, pretty much my only use for it.

That actually doesn't stop either of the tracking methods mentioned in the article. FB still gets your IP address and EXIF data that way.

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Or just delete Facebook apps.

Unfortunately it's not that simple for everyone. I personally would lose contact with a lot of people if I delete Messenger or Whatsapp. On all my contacts, I have two on Signal, zero on Matrix.

I stopped using Facebook and just started phoning and texting people a few years ago. Almost all the contact you have with people on Facebook is fake, it’s mostly sharing memes and news. It’s more personal to do that over the phone. I think I’m closer with almost everyone since leaving Facebook. Most of my contacts have installed signal of their own accord at some point too which is weird but pleasant

Re: Facebook still ‘secretly’ tracks your iPhone

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post #151

Beginning to think the reason security is so difficult is because ostensibly "good" companies do everything an attacker does and worse, but under the guise of EULAs. Here's a thought experiement: If Facebook were malware, could you get rid of it?

Yes, but only if everyone else was convinced it was malware, too. "Facebook invades privacy" is still a minority opinion among their user base (whether we like it or not).

Looking forward to 2060 when you can't participate in society any more unless you connect your brain to a cloud run by a facebook subsidiary, giving them access to all your thoughts, memories, etc. Everyone is connected to it. What's your problem?

Re: Facebook still ‘secretly’ tracks your iPhone

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You think Facebook does not have access to Whatsapp messages ? Would be very surprised if thats not the case.

Yes, they very publicly state that they do not have access and I have yet to see a reason to not believe them in that regard. All big Facebook data leaks and hacks have just exploited not very well known APIs or badly set privacy settings. But nothing that was secret.

Facebook has publicly stated a lot of privacy related things that turned out to be outright lies in the past, including to congress

Re: Facebook still ‘secretly’ tracks your iPhone

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post #151

Beginning to think the reason security is so difficult is because ostensibly "good" companies do everything an attacker does and worse, but under the guise of EULAs. Here's a thought experiement: If Facebook were malware, could you get rid of it?

Yes, but only if everyone else was convinced it was malware, too. "Facebook invades privacy" is still a minority opinion among their user base (whether we like it or not).

Not sure you'd need everyone, it would be a product.

Apple has been aiming to become that product, because I've said before that Apple is primarily a privacy company with a bunch of entertainment features. It also means that competing with Apple isn't about design, it's also mainly about providing privacy. Their whole recipe is the complementary packaging of the two orthogonal concepts of entertainment and privacy.

I should start the next Apple.

Re: Facebook still ‘secretly’ tracks your iPhone

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Facebook doesn't have access to WhatsApp messages. WhatsApp uses the same end-to-end encryption protocol as Signal. We know this is true because the app has been extensively reverse engineered to create these third party clients among other reasons.

WhatsApp is closed source, so you have no idea what it's doing. And they can push an update doing whatever they wish to you at any moment. You have to rely on Facebook pinky-swearing that it is what they say it is. And I promise you it isn't what they say it is.

You can’t promise things like that without having good references or proof. “Promise” might be a stronger word than you meant
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