Sad to see both LiveLeak and Best Gore gone. Not that I visited either much, but they really opened my eyes to the horrors of reality. What are alternatives to LiveLeak or Best Gore?
Documenting reality is the lead site afaik
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LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online
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Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online
#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Counter-point; the world is mostly a neutral, even OK, place It isn't, you are lucky to be in a privileged environment. And I don't even mean warzones. People who live paycheck-to-paycheck with family or medical issues wouldn't agree with you.
> People who live paycheck-to-paycheck with family or medical issues wouldn't agree with you. Considering they all go on living anyway, you’d say the good parts must outweigh the bad parts though.
Is this to mean "People aren't killing themselves, ergo everything must be pretty good for them generally"? Because, if that's what's meant here, I have to pretty vehemently disagree with that sentiment.
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#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree with this. Unfortunately, I got covid right out of the gate and should have been in the hospital. Then I lost some people, one of whom was worth a lot, and despite that still spent 40 some days on a ventilator, basically in hell, only to die pretty terribly. While all this was going on, I am surrounded by people who think it is all fake, nobody is dying, etc... I would tell about what I saw, felt and they wou…
Thanks for sharing. I’m glad you recovered and very sorry about the others. My own family happened to escape it but my wife lost several loved ones. > While all this was going on, I am surrounded by people who think it is all fake, nobody is dying, etc... The saddest, craziest stories are the ones who, while the tubes were going in, used their last voluntary breaths to cry “How is this happening? The virus is a hoax!…
I feel your wifes loss!
She OK, well connected to others and all that?
That gets better, but is a thing that does stay with us, changes us.
I need to be in touch often because of my own experiences. Hope she finds what she need to carry on and live well.
Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online
#154How much of LiveLeak is archived?
Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online
#155The world is a scary and violent place. Without Liveleak, you might never feel it. Until you see the actual violence and gore, it doesn't mean anything, it's just empty words. I didn't care at all about wars in the middle east until I saw the reality on Liveleak. Seeing dead children and people with their legs blown off made all the commentary on CNN and Fox seem so understated. A lot is said about desensitization as…
Liveleak doesn't portray the reality of war because it shows you some beheading. Voyeurism and gore are not the same as genuine insight into what scary and violent places are actually like. It's worth reading Baudrillard's ' The Gulf War Did Not Take Place ' on how media representation, and stylized, selective footage is used to distort. You didn't get to know the 'reality' of war, but the hyper-reality of it. If you…
Man those essays are some hot garbage. If you read them, you come away thinking that the US just decided to attack Iraq to make a point to Saddam. Let me quote it
> Unlike earlier wars, in which there were political aims either of conquest or domination, what is at stake in this one is war itself: its status, its meaning, its future.
A beautiful sentence, but Saddam invaded Kuwait with the intent of conquering it. The essays would better be titled “Kuwait does not exist”.
Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online
#156Everyone's mentioning the many tragic and gory videos they've seen on LiveLeak. But how were they making money? Also, is it moral to make money out of people's anguish and human tragedy? I also don't see any mention of why they are shutting down. Additionally, shouldn't these things be in the realm of journalism? Or is this the new journalism? Shouldn't there be some kind of fact-checking against this? In today's wor…
What?
> how were they making money?
That clearly was the problem - they weren't.
They lived in a space where no advertiser would work with them, they don't have a 'paid content' feature. General population does not "hang out" on LiveLeak. You go there and then leave.
What is all this about "journalism"? What journal going to feature actual death videos?
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#157I happen to think a lot of the pandemic denial and downplaying had to do with the media's refusal (for valid privacy reasons) to show what was actually going on in ICUs everywhere. The lack of graphic coverage kept the pandemic's worst effects out of sight, out of mind for a lot of people, allowing them to focus on and rage against the less important side-issues like how awful masks are and how upset it made them to…
Perhaps the lack of graphic Covid videos isn't because people are too shy to post them.
Covid is nasty, but at the end it's just another respiratory viral disease, a.k.a. "common cold".
It's just that before we ignored the human toll of the "common cold". (Yes, it is nasty and causes e.g. strokes and heart attacks and pneumonia. It's a leading cause of death that we never bothered to report before because we're so desentisized to it.)
Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online
#158Serious question: how can we ensure stable and long lasting access to this kind of content, no matter how offensive, to journalists and researchers?
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#159Too bad. Being able to pick up a little harsh reality was a good, sometimes sobering thing. We are trending toward a sort of digital disneyland. That depresses me. Reality is far less pretty, and escaping that, avoiding the implications is being made easy and doing that made to pay well. I do not see how this benefits us as people needing to know more than we do.
Oligarchization of the internet.
Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online
#160The world is a scary and violent place. Without Liveleak, you might never feel it. Until you see the actual violence and gore, it doesn't mean anything, it's just empty words. I didn't care at all about wars in the middle east until I saw the reality on Liveleak. Seeing dead children and people with their legs blown off made all the commentary on CNN and Fox seem so understated. A lot is said about desensitization as…
Liveleak doesn't portray the reality of war because it shows you some beheading. Voyeurism and gore are not the same as genuine insight into what scary and violent places are actually like. It's worth reading Baudrillard's ' The Gulf War Did Not Take Place ' on how media representation, and stylized, selective footage is used to distort. You didn't get to know the 'reality' of war, but the hyper-reality of it. If you…
That's exactly the scary thing about war though.
You can grow up, go to school, make friends, fall in love, fall out of love, graduate, move, make new friends, learn to cook, fall back in love, buy a home, get a job, get a new job, learn to paint, fix that leak in the kitchen...
And then a car bomb goes off while you're walking by and all that time spent is gone.