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Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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Post by baron_harkonnen »

raunak wrote: post #4

Similar to bestgore.com - I suppose as the Internet becomes more and more just Google-land, niche websites such as these two will continue to disappear.

I’m still surprised that Tor hidden services never filled that gap.

As more and more stuff disappears from the clear web, I assumed more people would realize that .onion sites don’t have to be a wasteland of largely spooky scams.

But if anything the quality of hidden services seems to have declined in recent years. I’m guessing it’s a mix of darknet FUD combined with less and less people knowing how to host a website without using an easy to deploy service

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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Post by 1123581321 »

notatoad wrote: post #19

i always understood that liveleak and dailymotion were the same site, and liveleak was just the branding for their less-respectable content. but this article doesn't make any mention of that, and i can't find any other discussion online of a relationship between the two brands. is this something i just invented in my head?

No connection. Dailymotion is French YouTube/Vimeo owned by a respectable large media company (Vivendi.)

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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Post by LargoLasskhyfv »

judge2020 wrote: post #15
Mandatum wrote: post #13

The fact they were HQ'd in London always confused me. Yes the EU gives you some protections, but taking a pseudonymous TPB-style approach is probably easier for everyone (support, operations, management, marketing) than the legal grey area LiveLeak operated in. Also the end of the note from Hayden sticks with me, I know the type of videos or users he's referring to and I don't think the majority of readers will reali…

> The public internet probably isn't it. If it's not available to the public internet, what's the point? If you just make a "upload your video and we'll archive it" site, it probably won't gain any traction as people can't link to it and thus your site doesn't gain the mindshare that LiveLeak had. And I don't think people are going to start sending SD cards to a random PO box.

Maybe someone someday WASMizes TOR/I2P/Freenet etc., you get a link to something like a "hidden service"...

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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Post by userbinator »

karmicthreat wrote: post #24
reedjosh wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

BitChute maybe the replacement?

Just looking at the front page of BitChute it seems more conspiracy crazy than just recordings of crazy things happening.

That would change if people start using it more as a LiveLeak replacement.

(The name is somewhat amusing for someone with knowledge of Australian slang.)

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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Post by RachelF »

reedjosh wrote: post #8
spamalot159 wrote: post #2

LiveLeak was the only video site that still felt like the wild west. If I was ever linked to a LiveLink url I knew something crazy was about to happen. I'm sure serving this kind of content had its hurdles legally. And running a video site cannot be cheap in the first place. LiveLeak will be missed.

BitChute maybe the replacement?

or https://leakedreality.com/

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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Post by XorNot »

jimmygrapes wrote: post #66
ryandrake wrote: post #38

I happen to think a lot of the pandemic denial and downplaying had to do with the media's refusal (for valid privacy reasons) to show what was actually going on in ICUs everywhere. The lack of graphic coverage kept the pandemic's worst effects out of sight, out of mind for a lot of people, allowing them to focus on and rage against the less important side-issues like how awful masks are and how upset it made them to…

We did get an absurd amount of Tik Tok videos with seemingly empty hospitals and nurses with apparently enough time to choreograph dances though

Pandemics are non-linear. Pandemic response and fear emptied hospitals almost immediately and reduced normal cases (as well as people delaying treatment in too many cases).

People don't understand exponential phenomenon: a half-full hospital when there's a spreading contagion (with a replication factor ~2) is actually already over capacity. At 33%, with a replication factor of 2, the next influx of patients overwhelms you.

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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Post by Sebb767 »

jimmygrapes wrote: post #66
ryandrake wrote: post #38

I happen to think a lot of the pandemic denial and downplaying had to do with the media's refusal (for valid privacy reasons) to show what was actually going on in ICUs everywhere. The lack of graphic coverage kept the pandemic's worst effects out of sight, out of mind for a lot of people, allowing them to focus on and rage against the less important side-issues like how awful masks are and how upset it made them to…

We did get an absurd amount of Tik Tok videos with seemingly empty hospitals and nurses with apparently enough time to choreograph dances though

This is probably a "my part of the Titanic is rising!" kind of problem. Doctors have and need some time off as well and doing a dance is good for moral and teamwork. Plus, in some regions, the pandemic is pretty well under control.

This doesn't change the fact that they're currently burning corpses on the streets in India. A bullet missing you by 10cm or 10m does not feel much different; Liveleak showed you the effects of the bullet that did not miss.

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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Post by Dylan16807 »

moralestapia wrote: post #80
acituan wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The world is a scary and violent place. Without Liveleak, you might never feel it. Counter-point; the world is mostly a neutral, even OK, place, with also violence in it. Our cognition is heavily biased towards saliencing and preserving the scary bits, and being exposed to a planet scale showcase of those bits does not necessarily make us wiser (e.g. better decision makers). At least for me personally it took a dec…

>Counter-point; the world is mostly a neutral, even OK, place It isn't, you are lucky to be in a privileged environment. And I don't even mean warzones. People who live paycheck-to-paycheck with family or medical issues wouldn't agree with you.

But LiveLeak doesn't help anyone understand the constant crushing stress of being unable to afford necessities.

OP said 'scary and violent', and on that scale things really aren't that bad.

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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Post by ezconnect »

acituan wrote: post #60
nickysielicki wrote: post #17

The world is a scary and violent place. Without Liveleak, you might never feel it. Until you see the actual violence and gore, it doesn't mean anything, it's just empty words. I didn't care at all about wars in the middle east until I saw the reality on Liveleak. Seeing dead children and people with their legs blown off made all the commentary on CNN and Fox seem so understated. A lot is said about desensitization as…

> The world is a scary and violent place. Without Liveleak, you might never feel it. Counter-point; the world is mostly a neutral, even OK, place, with also violence in it. Our cognition is heavily biased towards saliencing and preserving the scary bits, and being exposed to a planet scale showcase of those bits does not necessarily make us wiser (e.g. better decision makers). At least for me personally it took a dec…

There are a few places in the world with little violence you are lucky to be in that place that you don't have to worry too much about your life everyday.
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