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Re: Moving from Macbook to Linux

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to me the most underrated thing i miss on Linux compared to mac is the file manager. I'm trying to get nnn setup efficiently but the out of the box options feel incredibly half baked in comparison to finder

Finder has no "open in terminal" option - into the trash it goes

Re: Moving from Macbook to Linux

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The fact that many people reading this post title (including me) look at it with sarcasm is telling on how apple scored big points with its new cpu. Keeping up with mac OS and the trackpad was already quite hard, but CPU could be the killing blow. Which could lead us in a few years to a situation where mac developers will face the same fate as ios developers : forced to buy hardware to sign their app, forced to push…

> What can we do, now, as developers ?

Develop for open systems. If you write a program for Windows, make it also available on Linux, or at least make sure it works well on Wine. If you develop for the web, make sure it also works well on Firefox. If you develop for smartphones, make also an Android version, and make sure it also works on AOSP without the Google libraries (or with an alternative replacement). And so on. That way, if these ecosystems become too closed, users will have an alternative; and the existence of that alternative might even help prevent these ecosystems from becoming too closed in the first place.

Re: Moving from Macbook to Linux

#154
I would strongly recommend the following combination for beginners:

Thinkpad + Fedora

Fedora stays on the cutting edge of the kernel, which means that driver support is quite good. Additionally, most of the Linux kernel developers use Thinkpads, so the drivers for Thinkpad are always good. I've never had to download drivers individually.

Here's a list of things that just "worked" without me having to do anything:

1. My bluetooth noise cancelling headphones paired with no issues.

2. My desktop display with usb-c just works.

3. Old-style plugin iphone headphones worked as did their builtin mic.

4. Logitech camera plugging into my monitor and routing to the laptop via usb-c just works.

5. I have yet to find a printer (as long as its on the same wifi network) that I can't use (granted I barely print anything).

6. You can install and manage everything via the GUI.

7. Docker just works.

Things that didn't work:

1. I had to install "gnome-tweaks" in order to remap my CapsLock key to Control.

In my ten years of using Thinkpad+Fedora I've only encountered one issue and that was during the Wayland transition. The Zoom client (as in video chat) briefly didn't support screen sharing, but that was fixed several versions ago.

Also, people saying that "M1" is a gamechanger: I totally get it for certain sectors, but for Software Engineers? Memory has always been my bottleneck. I don't think I've ever seen my CPU choke on a legitimate task.

Re: Moving from Macbook to Linux

#155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Docker performance on current Intel Macs is much worse than Linux. So if you're building software to run on an x86 Linux server, dealing with ARM-based MacOS is going to be even a bigger PITA: as both the arch and the OS will be different. I am definitely in the camp of replicating server setups on my laptops, so as sweet and incredible as M1 is, I won't be able to use it. But for new projects, I honestly do not know…

> Docker performance on current Intel Macs is much worse than Linux. One can only wonder why running linux containers on OSX would be slow.

Becuase macosx containers run inside a Linux VM, not on the native host OS, same with Windows;

Re: Moving from Macbook to Linux

#156

This stuff is always a joke. Who knows what his actual job is but any time you see these articles they immediately start with long sections of all the hacks & work needed to make the basics work. Battery Life Issues Getting a mouse to work Getting displays to work Wifi Issues Fixing keyboard mapping issues You're not supposed to have to waste your time on this stuff. It's been about 3 years since I tried to make a la…

You can't just install OSX on any PC, so why would you think Linux would be that way? I purchased a System76 and have zero issues with anything. I use a Toshiba for work also running Pop OS, and it has some minor issues, but I expect that because it wasn't designed for Linux like my personal laptop. Everyone wants their cake and eat it too, they complain about lock-in, complain about Apple's phone-home features (last week!), and then they just say "well Linux is hard to setup once, so I don't want to try" and punt the issue.

If you want a good and easy Linux PC, then buy a PC designed for Linux, like you would a Macbook.

Re: Moving from Macbook to Linux

#157

I did the same thing last year for similar reasons. Unfortunately there are some deal breakers for me and I’ll be going back to Mac. Easily the worst part for me, and it’s the same with Windows: Mouse scrolling, touchpad feel and gesture experience. Line scrolling without inertia feels ridiculous to me. Linux gesture replacements I’ve tried feel like hacky proof of concepts. Integrations like iMessages, Facetime, Air…

> Linux gesture replacements I’ve tried feel like hacky proof of concepts. Shall I do it? I'm doing it. Shall I? Yes. It's proofs of concept.

You are correct, I am very sorry.

Re: Moving from Macbook to Linux

#158

This stuff is always a joke. Who knows what his actual job is but any time you see these articles they immediately start with long sections of all the hacks & work needed to make the basics work. Battery Life Issues Getting a mouse to work Getting displays to work Wifi Issues Fixing keyboard mapping issues You're not supposed to have to waste your time on this stuff. It's been about 3 years since I tried to make a la…

Get hardware that supports Linux. I have setup many laptops over the years without a single hick-up.

Re: Moving from Macbook to Linux

#159
post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Ubuntu for my media PC, and I feel like for the casual user, it's plenty easy enough. I use it as an appliance with a steam client and a browser. Do most users actually need more than that? It's arguably easier to use than windows and macOS because it doesn't require a bunch of separate sign-ins to do things. I think the only "hard part" for the average user is getting into the boot settings to actually install…

I think this post kind of discounts the ways in which stable Ubuntu can break. On my last install, I checked the "Auto Login" button on setup which broke the entire install. I think that Ubuntu is definitely not even close to "regular people can use it no problem", but as with everything, YMMV.

I just find that kind of surprising because I have used Ubuntu for the past 8 or so years, in the cloud and on the desktop, and I have not run into a single issue like this.

Re: Moving from Macbook to Linux

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This stuff is always a joke. Who knows what his actual job is but any time you see these articles they immediately start with long sections of all the hacks & work needed to make the basics work. Battery Life Issues Getting a mouse to work Getting displays to work Wifi Issues Fixing keyboard mapping issues You're not supposed to have to waste your time on this stuff. It's been about 3 years since I tried to make a la…

If you buy a matched OS + laptop in any other situation, why not also for Linux? Buy an XPS next time, or any other vendor (Lenovo?) with tested hardware, and just put an Ubuntu USB stick in.

"I bought the top result for 'wheel' on eBay and ruined my life trying to fit it to this aircraft engine, this is such a joke!" Shit has just worked for years if you want it to work.

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