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Re: Moving from Macbook to Linux

#141
I did too switch from Apple to Linux, but I think there is a difference between Macbook (the Laptop) and Linux (The Operating System).

The author is complaining about Apple hardware but then went on to describe how Linux fixed his problems? Last time I checked, hardware that competed with Apple on specs and slimness was also quite expensive.

I think this post should have been about the new hardware he is using.

Re: Moving from Macbook to Linux

#142
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I truly believe that the argument for switching to Linux has never been stronger. Windows has embedded bloatware, and Apple allows no control over your hardware. There's really no other option if you care about these things. (Full disclosure - I do own a Macbook for photography work, and use Bootcamp for gaming.) Like you, my Linux installs have been incredibly stable for a long time, even with a rolling release dist…

I've been using Linux for many years, and it's definitely better, but definitely not what I'd want to use seriously. My gaming desktop has a 20.04 drive which I occasionally use, and yet I still find myself dropping to a TTY occasionally to reboot the machine or restart gdm because it waking from sleep, or just plain crashes. Also, I have 4k, 28" monitors which is just the size where 1x is comically small, and 2x is…

Part of the beauty of Linux is that if you're having issues with gdm's stability, you can replace it with another DM. This isn't possible with Windows or Linux.

As for your DPI issues, I've heard many have had better luck with Wayland than Xorg.

Re: Moving from Macbook to Linux

#143
This stuff is always a joke.

Who knows what his actual job is but any time you see these articles they immediately start with long sections of all the hacks & work needed to make the basics work.

Battery Life Issues

Getting a mouse to work

Getting displays to work

Wifi Issues

Fixing keyboard mapping issues

You're not supposed to have to waste your time on this stuff.

It's been about 3 years since I tried to make a laptop work for actual work with Linux. It didn't work well. The last time I successfully did so was from 1996-1999. Linux itself has improved immensely, but the pain of getting a laptop actually functioning is still pretty terrible.

The thing is 20 years ago the Windows and Mac laptops weren't seemless either.. Linux wasn't that bad in comparison. In the meantime Linux hasn't kept up.

It's all fine if the goal is to mess with linux or contribute to linux. You learn a lot and have fun.

If you've gotta be contributing to some other piece of software someone else is paying you to work on it's not fun.

It's too bad cause my job is working on software that's only supported on Linux. It'd all be great if we just used desktop linux workstations, but everyone seems to want to use notebook computers today.

Re: Moving from Macbook to Linux

#144
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I truly believe that the argument for switching to Linux has never been stronger. Windows has embedded bloatware, and Apple allows no control over your hardware. There's really no other option if you care about these things. (Full disclosure - I do own a Macbook for photography work, and use Bootcamp for gaming.) Like you, my Linux installs have been incredibly stable for a long time, even with a rolling release dist…

Linux on a desktop is okay, linux on a laptop is bad. I think Linux is cool and grew up playing with different distributions (starting around Fedora Core 4). I spent most of my time on Ubuntu because it worked the best, but also used Yellow Dog Linux (my first laptop was a 12in Apple power pc powerbook g4), Arch, and some others. Things that often gave me issues: - Suspend rarely worked without hacks, even with hacks…

The font rendering is one of the main things that keeps me on Mac.

On Linux the font rendering is either far too thin or far too thick, no matter which setting I fiddle with. I don't have the greatest eyes and bleh font rendering is huge pain.

I understand others may not be so picky, but acting like the font rendering is on par with Mac is just not true.

Re: Moving from Macbook to Linux

#145
post #62

Congrats! There were also a lot of refugees from macOS due to how Apple treats gamers. First they let OpenGL rot, then they didn't support Vulkan, then they dropped 32-bit. You don't have such nonsense on Linux.

OSX users are essentially at the mercy of Apple's whim. Most stuff is closed source, features are dropped randomly without a care for what users think, and worst of all (for me): anything you do on Apple is likely to be subjected to bitrot beacause most file formats are closed. People who still use Macs do this simply because they don't know better.

Indeed. Apple is such a nasty company, I personally never had any appeal to touch anything they make.

Re: Moving from Macbook to Linux

#146

I got into Linux when I was younger because I thought it was cool, and I had plenty of time to fix it when things broke. It's been my daily driver for ~10 years now. But there's quite a bit too learn. If I were to try and switch from Windows or Mac today I'm not sure I'd succeed before giving up. But I'm grateful every day to have a machine that I have some semblance of control over. I use a rolling release distro. I…

> I got into Linux when I was younger because I thought it was cool, and I had plenty of time to fix it when things broke.

> What I'm trying to communicate is, Linux desktop is usable, and it's worth pushing over the hump.

Huge fan of all of the above.

I do think though that now desktops are less inherently compelling than they used to be. They used to represent a center of activity, a locus of control for the user.

Now, a very sizable % of our computing is off in far away clouds, & the desktop itself is a less compelling, less interesting place to invest time.

My hope is that the Free Desktop / Linux world can begin to grow new roots, become more connected, & return to a little bit more of a place of prominence & relevance. Lots of visioneering & pioneering & engineering to do.

Re: Moving from Macbook to Linux

#148
I got into Linux because I couldn't afford a Windows OS back in the XP days ha. So I would be able to boot some laptop/cheap desktop with Linux Mint at the time. Those were the days 20GB hard drive and 512MB of ram.

Re: Moving from Macbook to Linux

#149

I got into Linux when I was younger because I thought it was cool, and I had plenty of time to fix it when things broke. It's been my daily driver for ~10 years now. But there's quite a bit too learn. If I were to try and switch from Windows or Mac today I'm not sure I'd succeed before giving up. But I'm grateful every day to have a machine that I have some semblance of control over. I use a rolling release distro. I…

It seems everybody who tries out a Linux distro has individual problems with various UI stacks, rather than Linux itself. The bigger the software (i.e. GNOME, KDE) the harder it fails. And often in unexpected and unpredictable ways, too.

The kind of people who use GNOME or Ubuntu or whatever the 'windows competitor' is always seem to be having problems, but are also the kind of people who see needing to use a terminal as a problem in itself.

I've never ever had a problem with i3, emacs, firefox, and simple <20 line configs. Terminal is fine, it's what most GNU tools are built around in the first place. It's apt that people who really love Linux and appreciate what it does out of the box, and who don't feel the need to turn it into Windows or MacOS, also seem to have the least issues with it.

Re: Moving from Macbook to Linux

#150
post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been using Linux for many years, and it's definitely better, but definitely not what I'd want to use seriously. My gaming desktop has a 20.04 drive which I occasionally use, and yet I still find myself dropping to a TTY occasionally to reboot the machine or restart gdm because it waking from sleep, or just plain crashes. Also, I have 4k, 28" monitors which is just the size where 1x is comically small, and 2x is…

Doesn't Ubuntu support fractional scaling? That doesn't work for you?

Yeah, but only since recently (version 20.04), and it's still considered to be experimental as far as I know.
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