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RIAA Takedowns Backfire as Pirated MP3s Now Surface on GitHub

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Re: RIAA Takedowns Backfire as Pirated MP3s Now Surface on GitHub

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Napster was viral. oink.cd was viral. PopcornTime is viral. The Pirate Bay was/is viral. RIAA doesn't care. Their main business is extortion racket. And it's extremely lucrative. And it's extortion on all sides . They extort money from DMCA and copyright lawsuits. They extort money from artists. They extort money from music services.

How could someone kill RIAA?

You'd have to kill the Big Four: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_industry#Consolidation

Re: RIAA Takedowns Backfire as Pirated MP3s Now Surface on GitHub

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>Musicians deserve better. Some do. I seem to recall Nirvana being outspoken of their corporate attack dogs the RIAA back in the Napster days when the RIAA was with a straight face claiming damages that totaled more money than was in circulation, globally.

Do you mean Metallica? South Park did an episode about how ridiculous their arguments against Napster were[1]. I don't remember Nirvana weighing in on the RIAA's side (incidentally, Nirvana disbanded in 1994 after the death of Kurt Cobain; Napster was founded in 1999). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Rock_Hard

It was metallica.

Re: RIAA Takedowns Backfire as Pirated MP3s Now Surface on GitHub

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> Then again... who remembers Digg? I do. It was pretty good, then they destroyed it, de facto paving the way for Reddit's success.

I hope something replaces reddit soon. The creeping features are beginning to rot.

The last redesign that nobody wanted did it for me, that was the last straw. The mobile app was horrendous as well - from all accounts it sounds like nothing has changed. But yes, I agree, we need a replacement soon.

Re: RIAA Takedowns Backfire as Pirated MP3s Now Surface on GitHub

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How do you optimize to maximize billing while minimizing effective takedowns? If I recall, you could host youtube-dl like repos in the Netherlands and Turkey on VMs running hosted git, and they'd be out of reach of the copyright cartel.

That is not hard, as the actions are fueled by greed and depend on spreading fear. It has nothing to do with rational thinking. At least not in the way an average consumer would assume. Copyright cartels live by bullying. It is not important how much of the takedowns are actually effective, as long as they get to dominate the news with their lawsuits. Because only that will already deter al lot of people. Just drag e…

I would go further and call them a "Hypnosis Apartment" - they only "work" when the client believes they work the actual realities are irrelevant. Even if they actually stopped all piracy if their clients believed it was because they designed a majestic new American Flag their cartel goes crumbling down.

Re: RIAA Takedowns Backfire as Pirated MP3s Now Surface on GitHub

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In the short-term, no. In the long-term - should companies like Microsoft get sick of their crap, all of the RIAAs power is based in regulatory capture. We can (and should) change the copyright laws that enable them to sue someone over a creative work that quite frankly they shouldn't get a single piece of after an extremely short period of time. The RIAA is big, Microsoft is much, much bigger and could tie them up i…

Setting aside the fact that Microsoft is a member of the RIAA alongside other major companies, the RIAA isn’t the only one interested in lobbying for strict copyright laws. There’s the MPAA, Disney, Viacom, etc. Ask Google how they fared when Viacom tried to sue YouTube into oblivion. :) Hint: Content ID

Google is new money, these fucks are old money. Print establishments are older money. Print doesn't care about piracy. Print has a good academia racket going.

Re: RIAA Takedowns Backfire as Pirated MP3s Now Surface on GitHub

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i agree with you... now show them your support by sending them a blank check for their legal fees. oh... i'm sorry... did i offend HN, strike a nerve and become a troll? no i did not. i am demonstrating that most people on this site haven't the slightest clue what they are talking about. it costs money and time to fight something and companies have something called a risk management department that decides whether it…

Is Microsoft a stranger to long, expensive legal battles? They've taken that risk before when it suited pushing their monopoly.

"defending a grey area open source project isn't worth the time nor the money."

need i say more?

Re: RIAA Takedowns Backfire as Pirated MP3s Now Surface on GitHub

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i agree with you... now show them your support by sending them a blank check for their legal fees. oh... i'm sorry... did i offend HN, strike a nerve and become a troll? no i did not. i am demonstrating that most people on this site haven't the slightest clue what they are talking about. it costs money and time to fight something and companies have something called a risk management department that decides whether it…

it costs money and time to fight something and companies have something called a risk management department that decides whether it is worth the risk to fight or comply Genuine question: why? The police won't get involved in a civil matter, only a criminal one. So what happens if you just ignore the other side's lawyers?

cause lawyers cost money

Re: RIAA Takedowns Backfire as Pirated MP3s Now Surface on GitHub

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The problem is that git is not feature complete to replace github. In hindsight I wish it had gone the Fossil route: integrate issue management in the distributed repo. If issues, wiki and code review were integrated in git proper it would be trivial to change host on a dime. Unfortunately it doesn't work that way (yet?).

Actually, why couldn't you keep issues as text files in a folder in the repo... I mean, you've got your CI stuff and documentation and everything else in there.

There are a number of tools for distributed bug tracking:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22833037

Re: RIAA Takedowns Backfire as Pirated MP3s Now Surface on GitHub

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> This request wasn't well-received by developers, many of whom retaliated by posting copies of the code. Yesterday, things went from bad to worse when a user with the name 'F * T RIAA' uploaded three MP3s of the songs the RIAA mentioned in its takedown notice RIAA couldn't care less. As far as I understand, they practically are just a team of lawyers whose job is to attack whoever they can reach, take whatever they…

Can someone explain what is so hard here to go ahead and host your own Git repository? I mean how hard is it to run git instaweb --httpd=webrick Also there are tons of options GNU Savannah, Gogs,Gitea , Git Bucket ...

Github offers far more than a git repo. PR reviews, issues, etc. are important for many projects. Linux gets by with LKML but that's a nonstarter for most people now.

Re: RIAA Takedowns Backfire as Pirated MP3s Now Surface on GitHub

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I feel sorry for GitHub people that are caught between RIAA's vandalism of the law on one side and activist vandalism on the other. To keep their business they should defend from both sides.

I don't feel sorry at all for Microsoft. They have a long history of harassing developers (e.g., [1]. It's nice to see them bear some of that for once.

1. https://www.infoworld.com/article/2676459/microsoft-sues-lin...

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