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Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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Post by ominous_prime »

drivebyacct2 wrote: post #148
ominous_prime wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Flash hasn't been an issue for quite some releases in Ubuntu Your personal experience doesn't make it true for everyone. The official flash release has to be run through nspluginwrapper on 64-bit systems, which can be a pain when it doesn't work. Suggesting that the average user stick with the 32-bit release removes any support issues related to 32 vs 64-bit plugins (java included too) and nspluginwrapper, with no…

That's simply not true any longer. It just isn't. It's not "my personal experience". If you install ubuntu-restricted-extras, all of this is done transparently without ANY work on the users' part. I would know, because I've never installed Flash manually on this system.

Yes, this is done transparently, and most people won't have a problem. As with most things Ubuntu, as long as you go with the defaults, everything will work smoothly.

What I'm saying, is that flash, java (plugin), and nspluginwrapper can be broken. It happens; and when it happens, it's not obvious what went wrong or how to fix it. Going 32-bit simply removes this support issue altogether.

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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Post by bryanlarsen »

2mur wrote: post #59

I'm not going back to linux on the desktop until it can sleep my laptop reliably. OSX is so nice for that. Just close the lid and go... I can't imagine working any other way now.

I've got a Thinkpad running Ubuntu 10.10 that sleeps reliably and a second-gen MacBook Pro running OSX that doesn't.

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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Post by nightlifelover »

fingerprinter wrote: post #16

I've had it installed on my main machine since late December. There were some rough patches as things were landing during the beta period, but right now this is easily the best desktop I've ever used. My workflow adapted to some of the additions in Unity so quickly that it was absurd. At this point I could never go back to something without Super+#, Super+w, Super+s and the other keybindings found here: http://askubu…

Soooooo cool that they realized that every keyboard has a windows key!!! Instead of adapting the ms shortcuts, they find different shortcuts which do the same, how great is that?!

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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Post by javanix »

ZoFreX wrote: post #149
javanix wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Though unfortunately upddate files are still distributed through centralized repositories. I wonder whether there'd be major security concerns if a torrent layer was stuck over the main centralized backbone? It could probably reduce bandwidth costs for hosting and provide better speeds to people, though keeping the "swarm" updated might be kind of tricky.

Security concerns can be dealt with via the pre-existing public/private key crypto that's going on in apt already. The problem with torrents is they don't work well for lots and lots of (relatively) small "file groups" where each user has a lot of the files, but each user has completely different files. Something based on tiger tree hashing or some other mechanism like that might be more suitable, perhaps?

True, in order to provide consistent benefit to users you'd need some sort of mechanism to determine whether it'd be faster to "grab from the swarm" or "grab from the repo".

Perhaps even setting up each already-existing mirror as its own seed-center would help - there are plenty of them around, and by definition they all have the same data. Worst case you end up getting only one connection, and you have the same performance as now, but in the best case you can download from multiple locations at once and get some rudimentary load balancing.

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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Post by minalecs »

krat0sprakhar wrote: post #113

Ok... this seems pretty much out of place but I dont suppose I can get a better answer anywhere else, so here it goes. I'm a student in India and in a dilemma about buying a Mac or buying a windows machine (dual booting with Ubuntu 11.04 ). At about 3/4th the price of a Mac I can purchase a more powerful windows laptop and boot up Ubuntu ( and thus avoid windows altogether ). I need a workstation for Ruby on Rails/ N…

Having a linux desktop and mac laptop, I prefer my linux box, and probably will not get a mac again in the future. I do Java and Ruby dev. Apple basically won't commit to java in the future. Apple updates do cost money ( not incremental updates) as well as most of their software. Now I'm not saying there are not free ones, but I want utility not eyecandy in most aspects ( and I understand people will probably not agree with that point) and the repository pretty much I can find what I want. In order to use a lot of the tools I want, I need to use macports or fink. Paths to hardware upgrades are going to be some what easier on hardware thats not mac, probably along with price of hardware. I use mainly cloud/web utilities for things like google apps, calendar, and email.. I don't care for a lot of the native mac apps, I really can't think of a single mac app that I use that isn't available on ubuntu.. but the good examples are things like iMovie and garage band. I really don't understand the point of development being more enjoyable, you're going to be living in a text editor and hopefully you understand commands to run things without a gui ( example would be code repository ). Also part idealism as well for me, I like be a supporter and advocate, and when if I have a chance to educate people and be interested in alternatives, I'm all for it.

As others have stated I think its what you do outside of development. Also you can look at the osx86 project if you're adventurous.

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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Post by zenocon »

i'm shopping for a new laptop to put this on. i'm looking for something maybe like the samsung series 9. ideally, i'd like it to be as slim as that, but have a 15" screen. anyway, looking for laptop HW recommendations from others here. i've run ubuntu on a number of thinkpads before, but i want to buy a new laptop to replace my MBP.

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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Post by te_chris »

krat0sprakhar wrote: post #113

Ok... this seems pretty much out of place but I dont suppose I can get a better answer anywhere else, so here it goes. I'm a student in India and in a dilemma about buying a Mac or buying a windows machine (dual booting with Ubuntu 11.04 ). At about 3/4th the price of a Mac I can purchase a more powerful windows laptop and boot up Ubuntu ( and thus avoid windows altogether ). I need a workstation for Ruby on Rails/ N…

I use a macbook pro and it truly is a better laptop than anything else, but if you're looking at a desktop then the argument becomes a lot murkier if you're not doing iOS development. If cost is an issue, I'd build a windows desktop from parts that are OSx86 (Hackintosh) compliant so if you need the osx experience you can get it. That gives you the best of most worlds' I'd say without having to pay the mac premium - though if you're getting a laptop, then the mac premium is almost certainly worth it IMNSHO.

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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Post by carussell »

derleth wrote: post #150
fingerprinter wrote: post #16

I've had it installed on my main machine since late December. There were some rough patches as things were landing during the beta period, but right now this is easily the best desktop I've ever used. My workflow adapted to some of the additions in Unity so quickly that it was absurd. At this point I could never go back to something without Super+#, Super+w, Super+s and the other keybindings found here: http://askubu…

What is the default mapping for Super?

Generally, the Windows key.
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