Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) • Hacker News Board

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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Post by chao- » Thu, Apr 28, 2011, 11:41 AM UTC

meric wrote: post #15

Ubuntu's website shows of its Dash "Spotlight", Launcher "Dock", Status Icons "Menu bar with status", Workspace "Spaces", Ubuntu Store "Mac App Store". It's almost like they're trying to directly compete with Mac OS X, with "killer features" that match exactly with what apple regularly shows off with Mac OS X.

That's an interesting point. If so, would it not be a little misguided?

I'd love to see some data one way or the other, but in my experience and among my friends and associates, people who buy Apple computers are incredibly likely to value the polished, "just works" factors of OS X and if they do care about being UNIX-like, it has them covered too. Then among those who run Linux as a primary OS, they do so without paying for the shiny Apple hardware. Again I stress this is a personal subset and I welcome it being corrected or confirmed by hard numbers.

At the same time, perhaps I am looking at this the wrong way: If you have a goal of being the best desktop experience, then better to pit yourself against the best?

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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Post by mattdeboard » Thu, Apr 28, 2011, 11:41 AM UTC

enterneo wrote: post #20

aargh! I just installed it in Vmware Fusion on Snow Leopard only to realize it does not support OpenGL for Linux OS. Ubuntu went into a fallback mode and disabled Unity. Seems like I need to switch to a different Virtual Machine Software, any suggestions?

I really love Oracle's VirtualBox and use it daily for my dev environment.

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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Post by wbond » Thu, Apr 28, 2011, 11:41 AM UTC

drivingmenuts wrote: post #19

unwind wrote: post #5

Of course, this is the release that changes the desktop interface around quite a lot. I'm a bit hesitant, although this answer in the FAQ was soothing: No problem at all. You can choose to launch the classic desktop experience when you log in to your computer. Not sure if this really means that the choice has to be re-made on every login, or if is remembered. Anyone?

You don't get a choice if you run it in a VM, btw. It's classic or aught.

What virtualization program are you running?

If you are using VirtualBox you can run apt-get install virtualbox-ose-guest-utils. You'll also need to enable 3D support under Settings > Display.

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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Post by Tichy » Thu, Apr 28, 2011, 11:42 AM UTC

meric wrote: post #15

Ubuntu's website shows of its Dash "Spotlight", Launcher "Dock", Status Icons "Menu bar with status", Workspace "Spaces", Ubuntu Store "Mac App Store". It's almost like they're trying to directly compete with Mac OS X, with "killer features" that match exactly with what apple regularly shows off with Mac OS X.

I think most of these things were actually on Unix/Linux first, just maybe not as pretty as on OS X.

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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Post by JonnieCache » Thu, Apr 28, 2011, 11:42 AM UTC

I'd like to point out that this is a good time to really test your connection. I've never downloaded anything faster than a torrent of a fresh ubuntu release.

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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Post by buster » Thu, Apr 28, 2011, 11:46 AM UTC

Just in time for my new laptop, perfect. I am eager to see the Unity interface! :)

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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Post by Newky » Thu, Apr 28, 2011, 11:48 AM UTC

lwhi wrote: post #6

As I use my Ubuntu desktop to actually get work done, I'm quite terrified about installing this release. I'm not sure I'll upgrade for a while yet, I want to find out what the general consensus is first.

For this reason, I rather conservatively remain with my LTS, no system crashes since the .1 release and I'm extremely happy with it, although I do miss the excitement of these new releases and its clear that there is a lot to look forward to in this release, especially if Unity is as good as some of the comments here suggest.

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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Post by praptak » Thu, Apr 28, 2011, 11:59 AM UTC

lwhi wrote: post #6

As I use my Ubuntu desktop to actually get work done, I'm quite terrified about installing this release. I'm not sure I'll upgrade for a while yet, I want to find out what the general consensus is first.

Agreed, although you can always try it out in a VM, on a spare partition or even a spare machine.

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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Post by riffraff » Thu, Apr 28, 2011, 12:02 PM UTC

Tichy wrote: post #24

meric wrote: post #15

Ubuntu's website shows of its Dash "Spotlight", Launcher "Dock", Status Icons "Menu bar with status", Workspace "Spaces", Ubuntu Store "Mac App Store". It's almost like they're trying to directly compete with Mac OS X, with "killer features" that match exactly with what apple regularly shows off with Mac OS X.

I think most of these things were actually on Unix/Linux first, just maybe not as pretty as on OS X.

I'm pretty sure dash (quicksilver/spotlight) and the dock were in osx way before they appeared on linux.

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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Post by krakensden » Thu, Apr 28, 2011, 12:05 PM UTC

Tichy wrote: post #24

meric wrote: post #15

Ubuntu's website shows of its Dash "Spotlight", Launcher "Dock", Status Icons "Menu bar with status", Workspace "Spaces", Ubuntu Store "Mac App Store". It's almost like they're trying to directly compete with Mac OS X, with "killer features" that match exactly with what apple regularly shows off with Mac OS X.

I think most of these things were actually on Unix/Linux first, just maybe not as pretty as on OS X.

Lets go through the list:

* Spotlight - OS X

* Dock - NeXT

* Spaces - X11

* Software Repositories - Debian [1994]