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Ferrari is bricked during upgrade due to no mobile reception while underground

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Re: Ferrari is bricked during upgrade due to no mobile reception while underground

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Post by netsharc »

bnycum wrote: post #66

The updates are pretty hilarious as well. Basically even after sending the tech the car is still bricked at the moment. Update 1: https://old.reddit.com/r/Justrolledintotheshop/comments/j9ji... Update 2: https://old.reddit.com/r/Justrolledintotheshop/comments/j9qn... There was also a story a few years back that is kinda similar in issue. A rental car was taken into a rural area but they couldn't restart the car as th…

The tech shows up in another Ferrari. God damn, nice company car! Obviously a loaner because the tech flew in from another city, but damn!

Edit: Oops, that's probably the tech in the bricked Ferrari, not in his company car.

Re: Ferrari is bricked during upgrade due to no mobile reception while underground

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Post by mprovost »

jessaustin wrote: post #140
mprovost wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is still a market for horses.

Just barely. The slaughter ban enacted over a decade ago has emptied out horses from the American heartland. Lots of them starved to death. Many of them ended up slaughtered anyway, only in much poorer conditions in Mexico. Large livestock used to have inherent value in this country. Not anymore. We're the India of horses. When poor rural families are doing fine, spending thirty bucks a month on feeding and caring fo…

You're right, but the market isn't the same as when horses were the primary means of transportation and (literal) horsepower. Horses are a hobby for rich people. My comment was kind of a throwaway but I have seen articles that of course there will still be gasoline cars once EVs (and possible AVs) have taken over. But you won't commute in one, the same way you don't commute by horse anymore. They'll be expensive toys that you take out on weekends to enjoy. And everyone that has one will also have an EV for everyday use - the same way everyone (in the first world) with a horse also has a car.

Re: Ferrari is bricked during upgrade due to no mobile reception while underground

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Post by aleksandrm »

LeonM wrote: post #70

A lot of readers here, and on Reddit seem to be misunderstanding the situation. The way I understand it, this car was taken in by a garage for 'seat installation'. I presume this means after market seats. The car disabled itself during installation. The OP assumed due to an anti-temper device, but it could have been any failure mode. Most modern cars with airbags will have sensors in the seats to disable some of the…

There was an update to the story. They pushed the car outside but that didn't help so they had to tow it.

Re: Ferrari is bricked during upgrade due to no mobile reception while underground

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Post by theginger »

Igelau wrote: post #136
lisper wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some do. https://www.ferrari.com/en-US/auto/gtc4lusso But what difference does that make? Why couldn't you put a car seat in the front passenger seat of a two-seater?

Airbags are not designed with the bodies of children or infants in rear-facing carseats in mind. They're actually really dangerous for them - potentially lethal.

I suspect they were in the process of disabling the airbag when this all kicked off.

Re: Ferrari is bricked during upgrade due to no mobile reception while underground

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Post by netsharc »

asdff wrote: post #64
klyrs wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can frame it as regulatory capture, but to a large extent, it's more about environmental and consumer protections that the auto industry has spent decades fighting. As somebody who drives an ancient car, I'm keenly aware of its lack of safety features. The "american steel" argument falls flat; my car was made before the concept of crumple zones, much less airbags -- driving this boat, I'd be seriously injured or…

Is throttle and steering by wire a safety feature? No. Its objectively worse than having the physical linkage, and manufacturers turn to it out of ease of design.

Throttle-by-wire helps with emissions and fuel consumption, technically making cars safer for all of us pollution-breathing humans: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_throttle_control

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Post by kofejnik »

nrmitchi wrote: post #134
compsciphd wrote: post #116

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does it have a back seat?

First, some models do. I don't know about that particular one, because (shockingly) I don't own a Ferrari. But second, that doesn't matter. Most places do not have laws that prohibit children in the front seat of cars, only that they use appropriate child seats. Further, child seats are typically required for _children_, not just infants. IIRC, for example, in Texas, child seats are required for any child under the a…

except that child seats are mostly safety theater, of course

Re: Ferrari is bricked during upgrade due to no mobile reception while underground

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Post by joosters »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #137
LeonM wrote: post #70

A lot of readers here, and on Reddit seem to be misunderstanding the situation. The way I understand it, this car was taken in by a garage for 'seat installation'. I presume this means after market seats. The car disabled itself during installation. The OP assumed due to an anti-temper device, but it could have been any failure mode. Most modern cars with airbags will have sensors in the seats to disable some of the…

Agreed, I also really dislike this frequent misuse of the term "bricking". Bricking used to mean getting your device into a permanently unrecoverable state, but these days I see it used so often as just to mean "I can't turn it on right now".

Language evolves, it's not set in stone.

Besides, the car might still be bricked, as far as we know? Perhaps the onboard computer is screwed and needs a replacement?

Re: Ferrari is bricked during upgrade due to no mobile reception while underground

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Post by chiefalchemist »

LeonM wrote: post #70

A lot of readers here, and on Reddit seem to be misunderstanding the situation. The way I understand it, this car was taken in by a garage for 'seat installation'. I presume this means after market seats. The car disabled itself during installation. The OP assumed due to an anti-temper device, but it could have been any failure mode. Most modern cars with airbags will have sensors in the seats to disable some of the…

In other words, a classic case of: It's not a bug, it's a feature.
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