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OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by neurostimulant »

shawnz wrote: post #24
mrweasel wrote: post #11

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macOS isn't exactly perfect, but I don't know any other desktop operating system that comes even close to macOS in terms of polish and user experience. I understand that Microsoft can't just redesign Windows over night, but I also fail to understand why Windows isn't better. Better as in more consistent and more responsive. As much as I like to consider other operating systems, the reality is that I don't want the ha…

Are you primarily a mac OS user? I am primarily a Windows user and when I occasionally have to use mac OS, I find myself regularly facing many seemingly inconsistent behaviors that really surprise me. I'm inclined to think it is a matter of familiarity more than anything.

Another anecdote: I was a Linux user and had to use a Mac for apps development, and the transition was smooth. I imagine transitioning from windows to unix system would be pretty jarring because not only the ui is different, but the underlying system is different too.

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by EamonnMR »

runjake wrote: post #74

Hackintoshes are very stable if: - You buy the right hardware. Intel CPU and AMD GPU. Choose Ryzen if you like those and like tinkering and hacking on your OS a lot. And no, it's very unlikely your Nvidia GPU will ever work with a recent macOS. - You use the vanilla method of macOS install. The dortania guides along with /r/hackintosh are all you need. Avoid tonymacx86, insanelymac, and any software with the word "be…

> - You set aside the occasional day for OS updates (and possibly updating OpenCore). You do not want to update willy-nilly and you definitely want to wait a day or few for the more brave to guinea pig any issues.

This is good general advice for updating even apple-built MacOS machines.

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by andrewnicolalde »

Teknoman117 wrote: post #138
ssijak wrote: post #79

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Dont use Ryzen, virtualization does not work, including Docker and some other apps like Adobe ones are buggy. Other than that I agree. I made a hackintosh a month ago for half the price of what I would need to pay Apple and it is rock solid. Everything works including all wireless features like sidecar, airdrop, etc. Sleep, thunderbold, rx5700xt, everything is working well.

I use Ryzen in my "Hackintosh". However, these days I've been using GPU-passthrough and running macOS in a VM on top of Linux.

Does virtualization work?

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by comex »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #140
sneak wrote: post #134

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I anticipate that ARM macOS will not run at all on systems without Apple Silicon (as they are calling it) and never will. I assume these systems will have the proprietary secure enclave on-die, which would be missing from all other ARM systems. Hopefully I am wrong.

I agree. No one has ever managed to get iOS on non-Apple hardware†, and I don't see why ARM macOS would be any different. † Except maybe Correllium, which was a large commercial effort. Since they don't make any details public, I'm not clear if Correllium just built a sort of emulator or if they actually have the OS running "natively" on 3rd party hardware.

It’s using hardware virtualization for the CPU, but emulating peripherals, similar to your average VM software.

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by kitsunesoba »

elagost wrote: post #130

As someone who used to do this myself, I don't quite understand why people still go through all the effort to run macOS. In the past I've built Hackintoshes on desktops and laptops, and it was fun to accomplish (audio through HDMI was especially tricky!), but in the end it was slower, less stable, and not nearly as useful as running Linux on the same hardware. I run Linux on everything these days. What's the draw? Be…

I switched away from a hackintosh tower to a real Mac recently because things lined up for that to make sense, but previously I hackintoshed because nothing came as close to checking all of my boxes for a desktop environment as even just out of the box macOS.

No amount of effort spent on customizing Windows does the trick because of things about it that are unchangeable (like its terrible text rendering), and while a Linux setup can get close (especially if eschewing a monolithic DE), it requires pouring countless hours into it to get it there, and even then many details are wrong and random things are flaky.

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by Abishek_Muthian »

runjake wrote: post #146
Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #106

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>The dortania guides along with /r/hackintosh are all you need >Avoid ..., insanelymac, Where did the tools mentioned in those guides come from then? Hackintosh scene became what it is due to countless hours poured into development by developers from insanelymac, olarila & couple of other Russian sites; almost every other major hackintosh site started as guides using the information from the aforementioned sites. In…

The tools largely come from a Russian guy who goes by vit9696, along with some of his developer friends. He may (loosely) use InsanelyMac for OpenCore discussion, but the rest of the site is generally full of questionable and often outright wrong advice and to keep things short for the noobs I was speaking to, it's easier to steer people away from it. Pretty much everything can be done just using the Dortania guide a…

>He may (loosely) use InsanelyMac for OpenCore discussion,

Checking the discussion shows it's not true.

>but the rest of the site is generally full of questionable and often outright wrong advice

May be you had a bad experience with the site, or may be it really isn't 'noob' friendly anymore, but that doesn't mean you should discredit the actual developers of the tools in favour of the 'How To' guides written about the very same tools.

[1] Bootloaders before OpenCore - https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/319-bootloaders/

[2] Arbitary Kext and process patching - https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/647-lilu-and-plugins/

[3] Virtual SMC - https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/335292-virtualsmc-%E...

I'm just attaching the fundamental components of Hackintosh nowadays, but if we dig back in insanelymac the contributions goes back more than a decade when Apple used to sell their OS on discs. The content there are worthy of preservation at The Computer Museum.

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by shawnz »

dylan604 wrote: post #111
saagarjha wrote: post #81

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> Cmd-tab allows to switch to an app, but the Dashboard view lets me get to a specific window within an app directly from whatever view I'm currently in. 4 finger swipe up, and clickity click, I'm in the document I'm wanting That sounds like Mission Control.

You may be right. I don't really pay attention to BrandName(TM) of a simple feature. All I know is I never browse the /Applications folder to find an app. I also know that these features are NOT available on Windows. That with the missing spacebar press in Explorer for Quicklook access to a file in Windows makes not using macOS frustrating

Sure they are: hit win+tab for a Mission Control/Expose-like view, and you can get a Spotlight-style search by just hitting Start and beginning to type.

Dashboard was the name for a widgets system in mac OS.

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by guessbest »

R0b0t1 wrote: post #88
breakfastduck wrote: post #27

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This is likely a huge part of it. I'm primarily macOS but have a LOT of experience with Windows. I still feel like I'm fighting against Windows to do anything. I just think different people are suited to different workflows & macOS and Windows are very very different to each other.

Having done dev on OSX you are going to be constantly fighting the machine. Apple is worse about walled gardens than MS is. With Apple, you need to do exactly what they want or you will have pain.

I've upgrading a Macbook early 2011 to Mojave using the dosdude1 patches and the uploaded app keeps crashing when the reviewer tries to open it. It worked fine with no issues locally and with the High Sierra XCode 10.1. I can't figure out a solution. I would not recommend a hackintosh for iOS development with regards to provisioning issues.
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