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8GB Raspberry Pi 4 on sale now at $75

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Re: 8GB Raspberry Pi 4 on sale now at $75

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Beacuse if I spend $1000 (even $2000) I want to get that much value for that purchase. Or I can spend significantly less and be that much less married to that purchase. Between Apple's missteps, Intel's not ideal products/roadmap, and AMD's lack of uptake, the current products do not seem to offer the value for their costs. The 2015 13" rMBP was by far my most favorite laptop I have ever owned. I have never regretted…

Why not just continue to use the 2015 13" rMBP? It outclasses a Raspi + Nexdoc in every way I can think of, and if you still have it it's free :D Since 2015s doesn't have the T2 nonsense and you were fine with linux on the rpi and there's no T2 stopping you, then you can just wipe it and install what you want.

Also the 2015 13" rMBP is still a great design even today.

Re: 8GB Raspberry Pi 4 on sale now at $75

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Can you recommend any specific laptops at around that price point that have superior performance? Would these be new or used? And any idea how their power consumption compares to a Raspberry Pi?

Ya, I'm really confused. Does the poster want a $75 laptop? That's called a smartphone, and last I looked the operating system and specs are pretty terrible.

They said x86, so definitely not a smartphone.

Re: 8GB Raspberry Pi 4 on sale now at $75

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At this point, I would much rather use any x86 based laptop instead. Their price-to-performance ratio's have significantly increased since the first RPI was introduced and for a 100$, you get a much better package. So, unless the ARM ecosystem grows to allow for pluggable, extensible and better performing solutions than the latest entry-level celeron or ryzen based systems, I am no longer investing into it.

I do find that RPI life comes with a lot of add-on costs. Battery pack, input devices, display, SSD, etc. It does start to add up if you aren't using the RPI in headless mode anchored to a power cable. However, if price is the #1 concern, it's tough to beat the RPI. I checked Amazon and the cheapest 8GB RAM laptop was $239. Or maybe a used one on eBay for ~$175. But overall this announcement is very impressive. I for…

Of course those cheap laptops come with cases, keyboards, screens and other things.

Re: 8GB Raspberry Pi 4 on sale now at $75

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Before anyone goes "OMG I could use it as a desktop" $75 is close to what you would pay for couple year old ~4 faster laptop with broken screen, sodimm and PCIE SSD slots. Quick ebay check shows things like $90 'Dell XPS12 i7-3537U 8gb 128GB SSD broken screen'

I cannot imagine why anyone would feel anything other than unalloyed delight at the prospect of doing their computing on a used, broken laptop purchased at auction.

Re: 8GB Raspberry Pi 4 on sale now at $75

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Can you recommend any specific laptops at around that price point that have superior performance? Would these be new or used? And any idea how their power consumption compares to a Raspberry Pi?

Ya, I'm really confused. Does the poster want a $75 laptop? That's called a smartphone, and last I looked the operating system and specs are pretty terrible.

You can definitely get OK used laptops for $75, that's why I asked that particular clarifying question. I'm wondering if they have any specific models or deals in mind, ideally with a link to an online retailer.

Re: 8GB Raspberry Pi 4 on sale now at $75

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Hah, that's weird. I can't say I've ever seen memory being quantified in gibibits before! It's always gibibytes. You have to wonder why they deviated from what I thought was a universal custom.

RAM chips are and have always been measured in kibibits and gibibits since long before those two words existed. RAM modules are measured in gibibytes. In a desktop computer you typically use 8 XGb chips to make a single XGB module. The confusion comes when you blur the distinction between chips and modules as they do in mobile. They either use single package modules created from multiple chips via 3D die stacking or…

Thanks for the info. Clearly all my experience in this area is from the perspective of a consumer buying entire modules. I can't say I've ever dived down to the individual chip level.

Re: 8GB Raspberry Pi 4 on sale now at $75

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I also read recently that the lack of cooling can really throttle the performance of a Pi4. Do you have a good heat sink and fan installed?

If you don't want to think about thermal throttling ever again, get one of these: https://www.seeedstudio.com/ICE-Tower-CPU-Cooling-Fan-for-Ra...

Isn't that overkill? When are we going to start liquid cooling our raspberry pis? I expect someone to tell me that's already a thing....

Re: 8GB Raspberry Pi 4 on sale now at $75

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Unfortunately, their low specs make them really far from usable. I know that it may improve in the future, but as of today, 2GB of Ram for the PineTab...

Of course, you are free to pick whatever you want from their store, but comparing a raspberrypi with a PineTab is a bit unfair, as these two products are quite different. Moreover, I disagree with your suggestion that 2GB is useless in a tablet. It really depends on the use-case, and I have rarely seen a capability range similar to the pineTab in a tablet from-factor. Have a look at the RockPro64, for instance: https…

> It's true that the A64 family only goes up to 2GB.

I think they technically go up to 3GB, but making a board with that is messy.

Re: 8GB Raspberry Pi 4 on sale now at $75

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Ya, I'm really confused. Does the poster want a $75 laptop? That's called a smartphone, and last I looked the operating system and specs are pretty terrible.

You can definitely get OK used laptops for $75, that's why I asked that particular clarifying question. I'm wondering if they have any specific models or deals in mind, ideally with a link to an online retailer.

Thinkpad X230 can be picked up for around $100. I use one as my daily driver, another $70 or so picks you up an SSD and a 16GB ram kit.

Re: 8GB Raspberry Pi 4 on sale now at $75

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This is amazing, might buy a couple to add to https://Flocknet.io

How do you put anything that requires storing of something remotely secret on a general purpose hardware ran by untrusted parties?

Simple, you don't. Not every application has secrets that need to be stored on someone else's computer.
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