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Re: I think my BBQ just offered to be my default browser?

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Post by shaggyfrog »

hnick wrote: post #95
9nGQluzmnq3M wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the absolute inability to override the order of items in the sharing panel As an extra F.U., it also changes the list of contacts after a second. So I try to tap on my wife, only to have it substituted with the plumber who came once half a year ago... and this of course gets logged by the AI, ensuring the plumber continues to hold pride of place in my contacts.

Is there an agreed upon name for this, where a website or app loads elements piecemeal so we click the wrong thing by mistake? I know it exists as an intentional dark pattern (so we just think that's what happened). But it also seems so common now across computing and it pisses me off every time.

Three Card Monte?

I find this happens with computer game UIs a lot, too, especially for dynamic UI elements that float above static UI elements. Especially when there is a lag due to animations.

Re: I think my BBQ just offered to be my default browser?

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Post by 2fast4you »

HeWhoLurksLate wrote: post #145
hnick wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just yesterday I tried to type "Network and sharing center". Apparently it does not exist in the index which is quite annoying, I have to click through the control panel (after accidentally ending up on a web search). Windows 10 is an odd beast with multiple generations of UIs all nestled away.

Trying to get to the network devies page is equally infuriating- it's under network adapters and options in Control Panel, and may or may not actually be accessible from the new Settings app- I don't remember.

Even better, try setting the dead zones on an XInput game pad. Off the top of my head, it goes something like: “Settings” > “Bluetooth and other devices” > “Printers and other devices“ > Right click your game pad > “Gamepad Settings” > select your gamepad > “Ok” > “Deadzones”

Re: I think my BBQ just offered to be my default browser?

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Post by dane-pgp »

elliekelly wrote: post #117
jfindley wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get that privacy is important, but I'm struggling to understand why I'm supposed to care about a company logging data on the temperature of the beef I'm cooking. If they want to badly enough to secretly add telemetry code and not tell me? Great, have fun. Enjoy. I'll not lose any sleep over it. In other words - the backlash over excessive data storage and retention is very much good thing, but let's be careful to t…

Would you feel comfortable with a health insurance company buying that dataset and charging higher premiums for those who habitually undercook their meat?

Or who eat meat "too often".

Re: I think my BBQ just offered to be my default browser?

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Post by np_tedious »

monadic2 wrote: post #61
np_tedious wrote: post #47

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Wouldn't that be binary on/off instead of a temperature sliding deal? Valid concern about more moving parts and expected lifetime

Presumably the grill temp itself is best addressed through the grill—you can mechanically attenuate gas very effectively and intuitively, plus you'd presumably be at the grill already. Personally I use charcoal because I like flavor. :)

I looked it up and this thing is actually for the thermometer, not the grill.

Points kinda the same tho right? Power strip is too early / dumb to modify a near-continuous variable on the device

Re: I think my BBQ just offered to be my default browser?

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Post by Jakob »

freehunter wrote: post #137
Groxx wrote: post #88

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This is quite literally my least favorite UI feature that Android has ever released. It's slow. It encourages mis-taps. I have intentionally tapped it literally ever despite using the share dialog thousands of times, since it almost never shows me the desired contacts, and even then I've tapped the wrong contact half the time. It's incomprehensibly awful , wantonly violates even the most basic user-interaction guidel…

iOS actually isn’t much better here. Occasionally I’ll see something on Apple News that I want to share with friends who don’t use Apple News. I just want a web link. But despite Safari being literally the only icon I’ve ever tapped on to share something from Apple News, I have to hit the “...” and then scroll to find Safari buried in the list. I have to scroll past Strava despite (as far as I’m aware) Strava not eve…

You can change the order of share items.

When you are in the “...” screen, tap on “edit” at the top right.

This is what OP complained about is not possible on Android out of the box.

Re: I think my BBQ just offered to be my default browser?

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Post by mattmaroon »

beervirus wrote: post #7

What a crock of shit that grills are now IoT devices. The less of my life that’s accessible on the Internet, the better.

Man I love my pellet grill WiFi. If I’m doing an overnight brisket I can check on it without leaving my bed. And if it gets done early it’ll notify me.

I upgraded specifically for that and I genuinely love it.

Re: I think my BBQ just offered to be my default browser?

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Post by liggitt »

hnick wrote: post #95
9nGQluzmnq3M wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the absolute inability to override the order of items in the sharing panel As an extra F.U., it also changes the list of contacts after a second. So I try to tap on my wife, only to have it substituted with the plumber who came once half a year ago... and this of course gets logged by the AI, ensuring the plumber continues to hold pride of place in my contacts.

Is there an agreed upon name for this, where a website or app loads elements piecemeal so we click the wrong thing by mistake? I know it exists as an intentional dark pattern (so we just think that's what happened). But it also seems so common now across computing and it pisses me off every time.

Laggy loading of items into a tappable target area is begging to be called the “slow poke” pattern

Re: I think my BBQ just offered to be my default browser?

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Post by mattmaroon »

elliekelly wrote: post #117
jfindley wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get that privacy is important, but I'm struggling to understand why I'm supposed to care about a company logging data on the temperature of the beef I'm cooking. If they want to badly enough to secretly add telemetry code and not tell me? Great, have fun. Enjoy. I'll not lose any sleep over it. In other words - the backlash over excessive data storage and retention is very much good thing, but let's be careful to t…

Would you feel comfortable with a health insurance company buying that dataset and charging higher premiums for those who habitually undercook their meat?

They cannot charge you more for being morbidly obese, or riding motorcycles, out preexisting conditions, or anything at all but maybe smoking, so I’m not too worried about doneness.

Re: I think my BBQ just offered to be my default browser?

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Post by mattmaroon »

youngNed wrote: post #58
zerocrates wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a barbecue recipe guy I like, big proponent of leave-in thermometers (the kind with leads that snake outside the barbecue). He likes to say that the in-lid thermometers are just fine, provided you're planning to eat the lid. I still probably wouldn't use an IoT one, though.

i'm gonna level with you here, i've never eaten meat in my life, so am out of my comfort zone here, but i can't help but feel from reading this that the HN crowd have a propensity for over-engineering that is coming to the fore here. Fire, knives and an apron with a pithy slogan - c'mon, how hard can it be?

Harder than you think if you want good results. BBQ is the hardest form of cooking I’ve encountered and I’ve tried most things.
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