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You're a Slave to Money, Then You Die

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Re: You're a Slave to Money, Then You Die

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Post by magicalhippo »

hudibras wrote: post #66
peignoir wrote: post #6

It’s ad reductio it’s like saying soccer is pushing a ball. You could also say life is waking up eating sleeping and then death. It’s true but it’s definitely an emotional argument. I preferred the lectures on free will by Conway, it does not answer anything but it allows for a nice réflexion

In every HN comment section, there's always, 100% of the time, at least one person who only reads the title of the piece (in this case, a song lyric from The Verve) and still has the nerve to post a comment.

I tried skimming it and to me it wasn't too different from what POMO[1] might have come up with if it had been set up to generate a lot denser text.

[1]: http://www.elsewhere.org/journal/pomo/

Re: You're a Slave to Money, Then You Die

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Post by throwlaplace »

black_puppydog wrote: post #147
noir_lord wrote: post #7

Other than the author having the ability to use large words I'm not sure what I was supposed to have come away with from this piece at all, it's just word salad.

Well, professor of humanities there. Accusing them of using large words or "having swallowed a dictionary" (like one of the siblings here) is getting dangerously close to an ad-hominem. He presents some content. Not in the easiest form, maybe, but you're insinuating there's nothing else in there, when really it's more of a refusal on your part to engage.

>Not in the easiest form, maybe, but you're insinuating there's nothing else in there, when really it's more of a refusal on your part to engage.

people on hn do this constantly - as if precise language anywhere but in stem is a sign of an inferior argument. god forbid you have to do the background reading on something in order to truly understand.

Re: You're a Slave to Money, Then You Die

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Post by natmaka »

cpr wrote: post #132
deathhand wrote: post #25

Government was always supposed to be influenced 'by the people' those people are usually aristocrats. That is fine if there are enough of them with different ideas. What has happened is the consolidation of the artiscroacy and thus the means of influence of government. This is where we are getting our ugly problems from. What is the first step to fixing this? Bring voting into the 21ST century AND NOT HAVE VOTING SOF…

The problem with democracy is that you end up with mob rule. And as soon as the mob realizes it can vote itself bread and circus, it's all over. The founding fathers said exactly that. And the mob in general is in thrall to the media, which is pretty much a wholly owned operation of the ruling class. So, I guess, in the end, you get what your ruling class wants anyway, with the unwitting mob just a means to its own c…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anacyclosis

Re: You're a Slave to Money, Then You Die

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Post by 2019-nCoV »

brownbat wrote: post #146
noir_lord wrote: post #7

Other than the author having the ability to use large words I'm not sure what I was supposed to have come away with from this piece at all, it's just word salad.

Feels a bit like it came from a markov postmodernism generator: http://www.elsewhere.org/pomo/ Postmodernist arguments and critiques are like the blue/gold dress. Some people see it as pure obscurantism, just all white noise. Other people see it as full of interesting ideas. I've never seen these two groups successfully hold a conversation about it without getting progressively angrier at each other, mostly devolving…

Further, as a reverse Turing test, an author should be declared unintelligent if their writing is indistinguishable from that of what is generated.

Re: You're a Slave to Money, Then You Die

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Post by QuixoticQuibit »

xvector wrote: post #15
buf wrote: post #5

If you want wealth, stop renting out your time. Lean towards equity. You need to be able to make money even while sleeping.

How should one go about doing this?

You need to FIRE. Don’t necessarily need to retire early if that isn’t your thing, but being financially independent is key.

See https://reddit.com/r/financialindependence

Re: You're a Slave to Money, Then You Die

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Post by [deleted] »

factsaresacred wrote: post #105
buran77 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Investing, swing trading But who "generates" those assets you are investing in or trading? Will the action of investing or trading generate them? The cycle must start somewhere. > Software particularly. A couple thousand hours of sweat, toil and despair and you might just create a perpetual cashflow generating machine. Perpetual may be a strong word no? Your software will need attention, improvement, etc., its valu…

> But who "generates" those assets you are investing in or trading? This is irrelevant to the individual. The cycle already exists. > Perpetual may be a strong word no? Yes, I'm being slightly facetious. But the possibility of a creating a money-making asset that is unpegged from a 40 hour work week is very real. Of course there's still work to do but the work is invested in an asset that you own rather than being re…

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Re: You're a Slave to Money, Then You Die

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Post by threatofrain »

cpr wrote: post #132
deathhand wrote: post #25

Government was always supposed to be influenced 'by the people' those people are usually aristocrats. That is fine if there are enough of them with different ideas. What has happened is the consolidation of the artiscroacy and thus the means of influence of government. This is where we are getting our ugly problems from. What is the first step to fixing this? Bring voting into the 21ST century AND NOT HAVE VOTING SOF…

The problem with democracy is that you end up with mob rule. And as soon as the mob realizes it can vote itself bread and circus, it's all over. The founding fathers said exactly that. And the mob in general is in thrall to the media, which is pretty much a wholly owned operation of the ruling class. So, I guess, in the end, you get what your ruling class wants anyway, with the unwitting mob just a means to its own c…

If a democracy wants authoritarianism Nationalist Party then there is no magic mechanism to stop this, and it might be presumptive to even assume that democracy is most morally harmonious and effective configuration of society. I believe China is seriously contending this assumption, as it races ahead of its Asian and European neighbors with respect to economic optimism.

Also, political parties appear part and parcel with democracy, but that part of the discussion is so often left unloved.

Re: You're a Slave to Money, Then You Die

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Post by raydev »

saltyfever wrote: post #110
netfl0 wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is not true. It is a metaphor for generic work.

"By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground"? It was talking about honest, real work.

The cool thing about language is that it applies to more than just farming. Working any job for a paycheck just so you can buy groceries is also honest, real work.

Re: You're a Slave to Money, Then You Die

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Post by SolaceQuantum »

tomrod wrote: post #122
SolaceQuantum wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does the reasoning of buying stocks and bonds work over time given the current crisis has wiped out all the gains for many people made in the past several years utilizing this strategy, and before that was 2008 which did the same?

Tends to work well, outside black swan events.

Yes, if black swan events happen every 10 or so years, and the black swan events wipe away all the gains of before... is that really helpful advice?
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