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1. PRC loses face. 2. ??? (Does not include war.) 3. New Chinese government takes control. I don't think anyone knows how to do what you want. Just because a problem is important doesn't mean it has a solution.
Step 2: globally orchestrated sanctions on a fascist dictatorship Step 2b: hopefully we avoid WWIII
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#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
1. PRC loses face. 2. ??? (Does not include war.) 3. New Chinese government takes control. I don't think anyone knows how to do what you want. Just because a problem is important doesn't mean it has a solution.
Step 2: globally orchestrated sanctions on a fascist dictatorship Step 2b: hopefully we avoid WWIII
But though there's a lot of pressure to choose your side, I doubt every country will do so. If forced they might choose China?
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#153I imagined this was going to happen. Lately PG has been more vocal on twitter regarding Human Rights issues in China. I understand this is a very difficult decision. I'm not sure if its right or wrong. From the perspective of Human Rights its probably right, but from the perspective of investment its difficult considering China's growth prospects. I'm torn on the China issue and I personally hope our two countries ca…
150% debt : gdp... gonna hinder the growth in medium term
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It's the technical name for China. Personally I don't use it; China is not a "people's republic".
It look's like every other people's republic. I don't see why China is different.
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Totalitarian actions of the regime primarily against Muslim minorities (Uighurs), including concentration camps with >1M people.
Yeah, no, I've read a newspaper in the last year. What exactly does that have to do with YC? They're withdrawing from China.
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The ~1 million Uighurs the Chinese government has in concentration camps. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/11/16/world/asia/ch...
Supposedly ethnic Han Chinese men are also being assigned by the government to sleep with the wives of detained Uyghur men. https://www.rfa.org/english/news/uyghur/cosleeping-103120191...
EDIT: I posted this as a bit of an experiment. In https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21601613 I link to a TV program criticising the Chinese government's treatment of Uyghurs. Here I criticize blatant propaganda published by an organization funded by the US government for precisely that purpose. Almost an hour later, this comment is at -4 while the other is at +6. Agreement-based voting at it's finest, but I'm not going to let propaganda slide just because it pushes a viewpoint I agree with.
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#158I would expect more, and more direct language. Doing business with a fascist state or in a fascist state is deplorable. The message should be loud and clear. China today shares many parallels with Germany in the 1930s. There needs to be open frank opposition because embarrassing them is the only way to stop them until the US is willing to park an aircraft carrier group in HK waters.
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user may be Chinese national, but name calling ("brainwashed") probably isn't the best way to encourage the sorts of open dialogue that will be necessary to change their views
Ignoring or tolerating a violent ethno-nationalist ideology isn't going to make things better either.
still, namecalling these users doesn't solve anything. and i'm sure it's against the community principles.
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It’s understandable it’s a touchy subject. Why piss off China if you don’t have to? Only something to lose and nothing to gain. Also this story of a Chinese Stanford professor/investor’s “suicide” last year is quite the story. There’s a potential safety issue here too. https://www.forbes.com/sites/arthurherman/2018/12/13/a-death...
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