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Alternate Day Fasting Improves Physiological and Molecular Markers of Aging [pdf]

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Re: Alternate Day Fasting Improves Physiological and Molecular Markers of Aging [pdf]

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Post by jobigoud »

crimsonalucard wrote: post #149
jobigoud wrote: post #142

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Yes, it's known as 23:1 Intermittent Fasting or more commonly OMAD, one meal a day.

Is it? The thing is I'm eating two meals in one sitting so it's still two meals a day. I typically thought intermittent fasting meant one meal per day. Does what I'm doing still count?

I think the amount of food doesn't matter, I would say if it's in one sitting it count as one meal. People that do OMAD usually eat much more than what they would eat in a normal meal, otherwise it wouldn't be sustainable in the long term.

Intermittent Fasting just means there is a 12+ hour period between the last meal of the day and the first meal of the next day. The most typical form is two meals a day in 16:8 fashion.

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

ulisesrmzroche wrote: post #148
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #58

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> I noticed that fasting doesn't help with BF at all unless I eat very clean and lift. So what happens? You lose muscle and fat in the same ratio? Or do you keep the fat?

Fat first cus it’s easier to break down. Muscle afterward.

That's what I would assume, but they said the opposite.

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Post by AlecSchueler »

mytailorisrich wrote: post #132
wyclif wrote: post #122

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That also assumes you're getting enough sunlight. A lot of people who work in an office don't.

That's a bad diet compounded by a bad lifestyle. Working in an office does not mean one has to stay indoor all the time and at weekends.

If you live far enough North it basically does mean that for a good part of the year. Going to the office, it's dark, and it's already dark again when leaving. Need that supplement.

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Post by nathanasmith »

SwellJoe wrote: post #99
core-questions wrote: post #73

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> that's not really OK. This kind of word policing is even less OK. It's not "gross" to make a comment about something you see and have opinions about, especially for a public figure. You're not shedding light on any subject, either, all you're doing is being offended-on-behalf of someone else; the world's got enough of that and it doesn't seem to be making any positive difference at all.

The comment I responded to did not add substantively to the discussion, and I pointed out why. I am not "policing" anything. I have no power to arrest someone or censor someone for being an asshole online. I expressed an opinion about the kind of community I'd like to be a part of. Also, it seems like you're doing what you're criticizing me for. I don't think the world's got enough of minding one's own damned busines…

> Also, it seems like you're doing what you're criticizing me for.

There is a fascinating wikipedia article about this you should skim when you get the chance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

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Post by ubermonkey »

kasey_junk wrote: post #150
ubermonkey wrote: post #144

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Sure. I think that's still done -- I mean, look at top-tier racers. But fasting and cutting weight are different ideas.

I just meant that cutting calories while cycle training has a long history (though I would describe it as healthy)

Diet modification during training typically still involves eating more calories than a sedentary person.

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Post by kasey_junk »

ubermonkey wrote: post #155
kasey_junk wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just meant that cutting calories while cycle training has a long history (though I would describe it as healthy)

Diet modification during training typically still involves eating more calories than a sedentary person.

I know less about cycling diets than I do fighter camps but it is incredibly common for fighters to eat at fasting levels while continuing to train. The strict weight requirements cause that.

I was of the impression that it used to be the case that cyclists did this but that it was out of fashion now.

In any case lots of people do 1500 calorie efforts at fasting intake levels. It’s not healthy long term but it’s completely ‘normal’ for done athletes.

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Post by ciconia »

We have neighbours with twins aged 7 who raise their kids at home on a raw food diet. They eat lots of nuts, fresh fruit, fermented beans and garden vegetables. They conserve vegetables and fruit using lacto-fermentation.

The kids are much smaller and thinner than normal kids their age. Up until recently I used to pity these poor, starving kids. I compared them to our kids, who are athletic, tanned, well built.

But recently I started asking myself if this is not the other way around. Maybe if we didn't have the luxury of cooking, transformed food and western supermarkets we'd have been much smaller. Maybe this means that we all in the 1st world eat too much.

I'm starting to think that maybe we're not really better off having our stomachs full basically the whole day long, especially if you consider that most of us do very little physical activity if at all...

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Post by nathell »

ciconia wrote: post #157

We have neighbours with twins aged 7 who raise their kids at home on a raw food diet. They eat lots of nuts, fresh fruit, fermented beans and garden vegetables. They conserve vegetables and fruit using lacto-fermentation. The kids are much smaller and thinner than normal kids their age. Up until recently I used to pity these poor, starving kids. I compared them to our kids, who are athletic, tanned, well built. But r…

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Post by riskneutral »

hnick wrote: post #127
dvt wrote: post #17

I fast, on average, once a week. At least once a month, I try to do an extended fast (2-5 days) to force ketosis. I also do intermittent fasting basically daily (I only eat between 12-8). Been doing this for about 4 years now. Some anecdata: - Fasting > 24 hrs paradoxically gives you an extreme boost of energy and mental focus. I especially love how my olfactory sense is extremely heightened. It's pretty cool and eve…

> I also do intermittent fasting basically daily (I only eat between 12-8). I settled on this pattern years ago before I heard anything about it. It just seems right and natural for my body. I've never been into snacking and breakfast would make me feel ill most days (coffee gets a pass) so that naturally means I don't eat before lunch. Though I wonder how much of that is our modern lifestyle. If I go to the gym earl…

I’m pretty much the same. It’s been great for me. I’m 5’11” and in two years I’ve gone from 200lbs to 155lbs with almost no effort. I feel and look great, and with low body fat I have much more motivation to exercise as well. I find it easy to ignore hunger so it’s effortless.
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