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Middle-aged vlogger who used filter to look young caught in live-stream glitch

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This is just a form of digital makeup. I predict that using a young attractive avatar will become the social norm and this sort of thing will be entirely unobjectionable within a decade.

David Foster Wallace predicted not only that, but its rise and fall. http://declineofscarcity.com/?page_id=2527

Predicted when? I wish there were a date attached to that page.

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post #27

Wow, this shows how out of touch I am with social media and technology. I know that Apple's 3d-camera phones enable chat via Animoji, but that applies a cartoon image across your face. I didn't realize reality-enhancement filters (e.g. face thinners) were good enough to work in real-time? I'm confused because the links in the article just show the woman's real face [0], and not footage of when the filter was actually…

There's some images attached to this post [0], if you've used snapchat or tiktok/douyin they have pretty decent filters baked in but I guess the magic is making the video quality low enough to 'smooth' out the effect.

Also found an article [1] that looks at how much people are willing to spend and how far people are willing to go to hide their real look, things like buying silicon upper body suit(?) to get better looking boobs/frame or voice changers

[0] https://weibo.com/3824282019/HFtfQzAcw

[1] http://www.sohu.com/a/330373892_100117963 (mildly NSFW)

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post #3

I wasn't aware technology had progressed so far that retail consumers have access to this kind of software for live video. I would be very interested in what kinds of software these people are using.

Yes... The screen shot in the article looks a lot more like the 'filter' in use is actually another actress. Though I'd love to be proven wrong.

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Re: Middle-aged vlogger who used filter to look young caught in live-stream glitch

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post #27

Wow, this shows how out of touch I am with social media and technology. I know that Apple's 3d-camera phones enable chat via Animoji, but that applies a cartoon image across your face. I didn't realize reality-enhancement filters (e.g. face thinners) were good enough to work in real-time? I'm confused because the links in the article just show the woman's real face [0], and not footage of when the filter was actually…

> Wow, this shows how out of touch I am with social media and technology.

Doesn't it have to be done in real time for selfie cameras to work? I'm also behind the 8-ball and somehow only recently learned of smartphones shipping with reality distortion fields on by default: https://www.insider.com/samsung-phones-default-beauty-mode-c....

I wonder if we'll hit the point of photo/video evidence being unadmissible evidence?

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David Foster Wallace predicted not only that, but its rise and fall. http://declineofscarcity.com/?page_id=2527

Predicted when? I wish there were a date attached to that page.

Published in 1996, but it appears he began writing it in the late '80s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_Jest

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post #112

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I have some bad news for you about the Presidential Twitter feed.

The more Fulton Sheen shows I watch, the more I realize that Idiocracy doesn't have to continue to become a documentary. But that's going to require a moral change, especially among our youth. That's not the main reason I study morality and train my children in it, but if more parents do likewise, we'll have a very real chance of turning the country around. Unfortunately, most adults I've met believe the same thing I…

Trump is extremely popular among the people who do believe in an absolute morality, the evangelicals.

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I know this is tangential to the whole thing, but this is a cool feature of the Chinese language: >The story has been incredibly popular across Chinese social networks with more than 600 million people reading posts that use a hashtag which translates to "female vlogger experiences bug showing her old lady face" and more than 50,000 using the hashtag itself. In english, you're never going to get a twitter trend of #F…

It would have simply become something more compact, like #filterfail. We never got #CelebritiesPhonePicsHacked, but rather #fappening. Similarly, “Watergate” went from a location name to mean “never-ending scandal involving public figures”.

Language compression does not require ideograms.

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post #18

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Yeah pretty much. And no one should be against this. This is allowing people to be who they want to be instead of being limited by who they are... It is no different than someone getting plastic surgery to change their appearance... which I guess some people still despise but I don't see it any differently from someone who is transgender and wants to get an operation and drugs to make them more like their chosen gend…

"Vanity of vanities, all is vanity." The words vanity and vain come from the Latin word for empty, or without substance or value. When we alter our appearance, it's because we put value or merit in something that inherently has no merit. We all want a reason to hold our head up high. Some look for it in athletics, others in academia, others in financial success. This woman looked for it by faking her physical appeara…

No need for imaginary beings to enter the picture. One just has to put value in experience and originality. When every scar and wrinkle is a sign that you have lived a bit more than others, that you have become wiser, that you have more interesting stories to tell, then it becomes easier to be proud of being older and be attracted to older people. When you value uniqueness over conformity, then it becomes easier to be proud to be (and be attracted to) less conventionally-shaped people.

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My agrument is not the article's premise applies equally to everyone in severity. My argument is that people are never who they present themselves to be. This is due a variety of things, a mix of intentional avoidance of topics and impossibility to completely share a lifetime experience with another, atomic human mind. That you assume this claim is itself a deceptive act is an easy cognitive shortcut from parsing tha…

Because I don't see the fact that we have to present ourselves to the outside world with some form of restraint or self censorship to function (your technically correct "not who we appear to be") as remotely the same thing as fraud designed to manipulate/profit. I don't think it's reasonable at all to put those in the same box as some proof "everyone does it".

The requirements of society are to practice restraint and portray ourselves at our best. It’s manipulation, mutually agreed upon and without negative connotation. Being able to observe extreme and moderate things at the same time doesn’t make them completely different actions that aren’t at all related.

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I have lots of gray hair before 40 and don't even think of dyeing it. Of course, this is not so different than vanity on my part, as I'd be mortified if I was dyeing it and someone found out...

I shave my head, but I dye my grey beard. I know it probably looks like a "dye job" but so what? Is it any different from tattoos or other body modifications? And I can undo it by growing it out.

My argument is that I have the same basic impulse, it is just that I respond differently to it.
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