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Firefox might not meet your definition but with a few extensions (Containers, NoScript, uBlock origin) it's quite good at protecting your privacy.
The only thing is they integrate things like pocket and they're putting some other things in soon.
Edge sends full URLs of pages visited to Microsoft
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Re: Edge sends full URLs of pages visited to Microsoft
#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
The only thing is they integrate things like pocket and they're putting some other things in soon.
Pocket is part of Mozilla
For comparison, it took Red Hat less than two years to open source Ansible Tower.
Re: Edge sends full URLs of pages visited to Microsoft
#153Is there even a "pure" browser anymore? By that, I mean one which by default will do this: if I enter a URL in the address bar, it will fetch that page and its associated resources. If I click a link on a page, it will fetch its destination (this is obviously a simplified view, ignoring things like JS on the page etc.) No other network activity, no "recommendations", no other attempts to be "smart" or "helping" by do…
Re: Edge sends full URLs of pages visited to Microsoft
#154Is there even a "pure" browser anymore? By that, I mean one which by default will do this: if I enter a URL in the address bar, it will fetch that page and its associated resources. If I click a link on a page, it will fetch its destination (this is obviously a simplified view, ignoring things like JS on the page etc.) No other network activity, no "recommendations", no other attempts to be "smart" or "helping" by do…
For anyone who's wondering, Firefox handles Safe Browsing a lot differently. There's an overview here: https://feeding.cloud.geek.nz/posts/how-safe-browsing-works-... It's possible that this is outdated though. The tl;dr is that 1. Firefox downloads a list of partial hashes every 30 minutes from Google. It's only the first 32 bits of each hash. This can easily be turned off in about:preferences. 2. When you visit a w…
FWIW, Google Chrome does the same because both Google Chrome and Firefox use the same Safe Browsing protocol v4. The linked post was written a while ago when Firefox still used the protocol v2 but the post is still largely accurate.
Re: Edge sends full URLs of pages visited to Microsoft
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The safe browsing protocol computes (up to) 30 hashes of each URL, most of which include path components of the URL. So the space of URLs subject to hashing is far greater than 2^32, and the hash prefix alone tells you practically nothing. Furthermore the protocol does not declare as URL as blocked just because the 32-bit hash prefix matches. If the prefix matches, the browser downloads the list of full hashes and ch…
Just how large is the database? Computing 30 hashes of each URL means you are sending a fuzzy hash... and 2^(32*30) is fairly precise...
Re: Edge sends full URLs of pages visited to Microsoft
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[citation needed] Most users probably don't assume anything, it doesn't even enter the lists of concerns or cares they have or ever would. It's not that they don't understand the subject, they simply do not give a crap one way or the other. Random family in the US or elsewhere simply does not give a crap about things like this, no matter how much you want them to. It's not ignorance, and the most intellectually disho…
You are completely wrong, in my experience. I just recently had a chat with my 80 year old mum, and SHE was shocked and unhappy to find that google tracks her search history, let alone everything else. I found myself in the unexpected position of trying to explain why (IMO) it was ok and not a big deal that they did that. I dont know whether I convinced her. People assume they have privacy when they are alone. Its th…
"Only 33.3% were concerned about their personal contact information like email address and phone number being shared with third parties, while 10.2% were worried about their friends and contacts being shared."
Can you find me one that says most did?
Because I can't.
Truthfully, if people cared half as much as hacker news thinks they do/should, it would already be a solved issue.
Re: Edge sends full URLs of pages visited to Microsoft
#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just how large is the database? Computing 30 hashes of each URL means you are sending a fuzzy hash... and 2^(32*30) is fairly precise...
[Disclaimer: I'm the TL of Safe Browsing in Chrome] You can check by going to chrome://safe-browsing/#db-manager
Since I’m replying to you, I might as well ask, is Google planning on creating a locally cacheable DNS scheme that includes safe browsing information?
Re: Edge sends full URLs of pages visited to Microsoft
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You are completely wrong, in my experience. I just recently had a chat with my 80 year old mum, and SHE was shocked and unhappy to find that google tracks her search history, let alone everything else. I found myself in the unexpected position of trying to explain why (IMO) it was ok and not a big deal that they did that. I dont know whether I convinced her. People assume they have privacy when they are alone. Its th…
Sorry, but repeated studies on the issue basically find people simply don't care: "Only 33.3% were concerned about their personal contact information like email address and phone number being shared with third parties, while 10.2% were worried about their friends and contacts being shared." Can you find me one that says most did? Because I can't. Truthfully, if people cared half as much as hacker news thinks they do/…
I can easily imagine people not caring about third parties knowing their phone number and email, thats already a lost battle. Everyone is used to giving those out.
Their search history though? their private chats with their friends? the websites they visit when they are alone? Their medical history?
The things they have bought themselves in the last 12 months? their favorite magazines?
Take some time and talk to people, I agree with the studies you found that said people dont care about their contact information, but ask people about other information.....search history is expected to be private, IME, by people who are not tech savvy. The same with their other private actions.
Re: Edge sends full URLs of pages visited to Microsoft
#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are completely wrong, in my experience. I just recently had a chat with my 80 year old mum, and SHE was shocked and unhappy to find that google tracks her search history, let alone everything else. I found myself in the unexpected position of trying to explain why (IMO) it was ok and not a big deal that they did that. I dont know whether I convinced her. People assume they have privacy when they are alone. Its th…
Sorry, but repeated studies on the issue basically find people simply don't care: "Only 33.3% were concerned about their personal contact information like email address and phone number being shared with third parties, while 10.2% were worried about their friends and contacts being shared." Can you find me one that says most did? Because I can't. Truthfully, if people cared half as much as hacker news thinks they do/…
""93% of adults say that being in control of who can get information about them is important; 74% feel this is “very important,” while 19% say it is “somewhat important.” 90% say that controlling what information is collected about them is important—65% think it is “very important” and 25% say it is “somewhat important.”
Re: Edge sends full URLs of pages visited to Microsoft
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Well, by default, Chrome sends whatever you're typing in the URL bar to Google for auto-completion. No need to catch Google in such situation, it's a feature of Chrome.
Edge does that bit too. Things typed in the URL bar are only a small subset of "pages visited", typically would not include session IDs etc, ...