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Abuses show Assange case was never about law

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Re: Abuses show Assange case was never about law

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Technically, if you hack a mail server, you'll get access to DKIM private keys. I would only trust these mails DKIM signature if I personally received them prior to the breach. Otherwise it's a very weak proof.

Clinton's people would've come out and said if any of the emails were forged. They didn't.

That'd be just a damage control decision. It's not a verifiable claim for outside observers just from the DKIM keys.

Re: Abuses show Assange case was never about law

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If you will notice, Assange is not being extradited to Sweden, he is being extradited to the USA. Or in other words, this fear of being extradited to the US was completely justified, and everyone who thought otherwise was wrong, including you. You are wrong. He is being sent to the US. That proves you wrong, and makes everything you have to say about Sweden incorrect, because he is being sent to the US.

From the UK. Whereas if he had he gone to face trial in Sweden in the first place, he would have to be extradited from Sweden.

At the end of the day, he was going to be sent to the US.

That is exactly what the "conspiracy theorist" predicted, and exactly what happened.

If you thought otherwise, then you were wrong. Full stop.

Re: Abuses show Assange case was never about law

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Interesting choice of examples. Cody was accused of sexually assaulting an under-age girl and fled to Taiwan to avoid arrest... Innocent people don't run. Especially not before they've even seen what the evidence against them is.

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Would you please stop posting flamebait and unsubstantive comments to HN? You've been doing it a lot, unfortunately. Continuing like this will not only get this account banned, but your main account as well.

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Re: Abuses show Assange case was never about law

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post #148

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From the UK. Whereas if he had he gone to face trial in Sweden in the first place, he would have to be extradited from Sweden.

At the end of the day, he was going to be sent to the US. That is exactly what the "conspiracy theorist" predicted, and exactly what happened. If you thought otherwise, then you were wrong. Full stop.

Assange's argument not to be extradited to Sweden was that he could then be extradited to the US from there. This was patently absurd given the much closer cooperation between the UK and the US, and this has been demonstrated because the US is extraditing him directly from the UK.

That the US would try to extradite him was never really in doubt. The conspiracy theory was that the Swedish charges were trumped up because it would be easier to extradite him from Sweden.

Re: Abuses show Assange case was never about law

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Damm did this thread get intervened fast! My other comment got 5 downvotes in one minute, and plenty more too! Top comment is a spin-filled bullshit, probably pinned. And these are my fellow humans for whom Assange sacrificed so much. Maybe we do deserve to be cattle for the deep state.

Please don't break the site guidelines like this, regardless of how you feel about a divisive topic. Note that they include: " Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. " https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: it looks like you've posted quite a few unsubstantive comments to HN in general, like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19991361 . Please s…

Thank you but I will comment as I see fit.

Re: Abuses show Assange case was never about law

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According to the UN Special Rapporteur on torture, who just visited Assange [1], he has fallen gravely ill and shows all the signs of prolonged psychological torture. Apparently at first he assumed Assange was just a good actor, but after visiting him it had become clear to him and the medical experts with him that this is a case of treatment amounting to psychological torture, the likes of which (psychological, not…

> that this is a case of treatment amounting to psychological torture I don't deny his symptoms, but I strongly deny that "his treatment" by others led to those symptoms. His own decisions and actions, namely, to live in a cramped room for years, and not going to see a doctor, led to those. Now, you may argue that he was right to do so. But it was by his own volition. Sweden would have given him first-class medical t…

Neither the UK nor Sweden would give him guarantees that he would not be extradited to the US. The UK stopped all attempts by Ecuador to leave the UK (he became a Ecuadorian citizen and was appointed as a diplomat, but was refused diplomatic immunity by the UK). Assange stated many times that he wanted to go to Sweden, but only on the condition they wouldn't extradite him to the US.

So, I think staying the embassy was the only option for him, given that the US clearly wanted to have Assange and had already tortured Chelsea Manning for simply being the source of a leak. Not to mention that "Collateral Murder" was literally a video about the US military murdering journalists and then killing first responders. If they were willing to cover up their killing of US journalists, god knows what they'd be willing to do in Assange's case.

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