Close to 735k Fraudulently Obtained IP Addresses Uncovered and Revoked • Hacker News Board

Re: Close to 735k Fraudulently Obtained IP Addresses Uncovered and Revoked

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Post by metildaa » Thu, May 16, 2019, 11:52 PM UTC

freedomben wrote: post #145

metildaa wrote: post #61

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AWS is also overzealous about DMCA notices. If you go to other providers like Scaleway, they'll forward any abuse complaints but you don't have to do anything about them.

Hadn't heard of Scaleway before, but their prices look very reasonable! Are you a customer of theirs? Any issues with reliability?

I don't use Scaleway or Online.net, as they're known for ignoring abuse reports. Other hosts like OVH tend to forward abuse reports and deal with repeat offenders, a good middle ground between AWS's draconian policies and Scaleway's.

Re: Close to 735k Fraudulently Obtained IP Addresses Uncovered and Revoked

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Post by userbinator » Fri, May 17, 2019, 12:36 AM UTC

challenger22 wrote: post #143

rdtsc wrote: post #38

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I know someone who was hoarding banned freon and selling it on the side. The government eventually had caught on that people were doing it, but they also understood that punishing people even harder for selling it wouldn't work. So instead they started to provide incentives to convert refrigeration units to not use that kind of freon. It's been a few years so not sure how effective that was, but I thought it was inte…

See ebay listings for how you can buy R-12 by stating you are a reseller: https://www.ebay.com/itm/R12-Refrigerant-12-Virgin-Pure-R-12... >An EPA certificate is required to purchase R12 Refrigerant "OR" a statement saying you are purchasing this for "Resale Only". The "Resale Only" statement can be in the form of an e-mail. Pretty easy for Joe Handyman to buy.

Yes, it's easy to buy, but as I mentioned in another comment here, the price compels everyone to be cautious in using it and not let it escape. You can even find plenty of DIY videos on YouTube of people building their own refrigerant recovery machines (basically a compressor and a tank), so I'd say everyone recognises the importance of not just venting it into the atmosphere.

The last time I heard, the EPA certificate is itself very easy to obtain too; the fee is around $20, and it's a short open-book multiple-choice exam. Not really a hindrance considering that a gauge set and vacuum pump, which is obligatory if you intend to do anything with refrigeration, costs far more.

Re: Close to 735k Fraudulently Obtained IP Addresses Uncovered and Revoked

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Post by luckydata » Fri, May 17, 2019, 7:02 AM UTC

rectang wrote: post #90

luckydata wrote: post #86

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In the next 40 we will lose the rest of it. It's going to make a lot of folks very hungry, have you read "the road"? I would rather not live there, thank you very much.

In idle moments, I daydream of a wager where people who are concerned about climate change bet with those who are unconcerned. If climate change turns out to be mild, the unconcerned get the money. If it's severe, they die.

Why would such a bet be useful then?

Re: Close to 735k Fraudulently Obtained IP Addresses Uncovered and Revoked

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Post by johnr2 » Fri, May 17, 2019, 10:51 AM UTC

TranceMan wrote: post #137

johnr2 wrote: post #126

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> These ships alone pollute more than all the cars on Earth. Do you have a link to figures that show this?

I was intrigued - seems it could be because ships use heavy oil https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-the-15-biggest-ships-i...

> https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-the-15-biggest-ships-i....

Thanks for the link. So it isn't carbon emissions that exceed those of cars but SOx and NOx (which are still a problem).

Re: Close to 735k Fraudulently Obtained IP Addresses Uncovered and Revoked

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Post by SolarNet » Thu, May 23, 2019, 7:21 PM UTC

codedokode wrote: post #150

SolarNet wrote: post #149

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> VPNs and other services. Drug cartels, pedophile rings, etc.

But you have to prove that those IP addresses were used for crime. Maybe the purpose was only to earn money from reselling them.

And we can't. Because this person failed to follow the regulations that allow for that to be proven.

It's like if I ran a car rental business, and I stole license plate numbers from random cars or made them up, and then kept no records. And then when convicted and charged you were like "but you have to prove that those license plates were used for crime". How? The whole point of the crime was to obfuscate and prevent that very action of tracking the license plates.

Which is why he isn't going to jail for any additional criminal acts. But he is getting a very long sentence for the crime he committed because his crime was particularly egregious in enabling other crimes and preventing them from being discovered or tracked.