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Man Who Stole Plane Near Seattle Raises Troubling Security Question

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Re: Man Who Stole Plane Near Seattle Raises Troubling Security Question

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Does this second person live in the cockpit 24/7? This guy got in an unoccupied plane.

Do programmers just ship code to production without a second person to review code?

Yes. My previous job did precisely that.

We were responsible for probably 80% of the academic internet. And those Mloc perl5 programs were terrifying to work with.

Re: Man Who Stole Plane Near Seattle Raises Troubling Security Question

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It seems to me to be a continuation of the pattern of labor 'Going Postal' in the labor hostile environment that has emerged since Reagan. This should be a wake-up call to everyone in the country. We can't survive without being able to trust and respect each other as human beings. Part of that is recognizing that even the most humble occupations deserve a fair wage and chance at advancement in life. If we can't respe…

I'm not an MBA, but I think it's way too early to attribute motivation to this incident.

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I think helped show how sudden this change was. One day, he's working his normal job, another he's stealing a plane and crashing it into an island.

But you could just as well read it another way: the pressure built up and eventually he snapped, or he was just waiting for an opportunity and finally one presented itself, or he was just spontaneously overcome (not that we'll likely ever know). That's what I meant by the inanity: it's just a random trivial fact jammed in there without context nor explanation of why it should be relevant. Writing a story is selecting…

I don't know that it's fair to describe it as a random trivial fact; it at least implies that he worked that shift and nobody noticed anything amiss. The events of his final day are just a tiny part of the story, but they're a part of the story nonetheless. Journalists are going to look for narratives, and the narrative of "he worked his day normally and at the end of the shift stole a plane" is different than "he wasn't scheduled to even be there that day and came in to steal a plane," or "he hadn't shown up for work the last four days, until he came in to steal a plane."

(I'm not sure the bank robber in a blue baseball hat is a good example of an unnecessary detail, by the way. Almost every story about a robbery with witnesses is likely to include basic details about what the witnesses saw. I'm not sure I've read a single story about such a robbery that wouldn't include a detail like that!)

Re: Man Who Stole Plane Near Seattle Raises Troubling Security Question

#154

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Does this second person live in the cockpit 24/7? This guy got in an unoccupied plane.

Do programmers just ship code to production without a second person to review code?

What do you mean "ship" to production? Isn't the normal thing to do to modify the code directly on the production server using FileZilla on port 21?

Re: Man Who Stole Plane Near Seattle Raises Troubling Security Question

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Surprising it has taken decades for someone to try this. At least we don't have to wait on delayed planes while the pilot tracks down the key...

> Surprising it has taken decades for someone to try this. It last happened 7 years ago. From the article: > Colton Harris-Moore, nicknamed the Barefoot Bandit, was sentenced in 2011 for stealing small planes, which he had learned to fly himself as a teenager after reading flight manuals.

A big difference is probably that now everyone carries a video camera around and we have videos of things like this which go viral more easily.

Re: Man Who Stole Plane Near Seattle Raises Troubling Security Question

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It seems to me to be a continuation of the pattern of labor 'Going Postal' in the labor hostile environment that has emerged since Reagan. This should be a wake-up call to everyone in the country. We can't survive without being able to trust and respect each other as human beings. Part of that is recognizing that even the most humble occupations deserve a fair wage and chance at advancement in life. If we can't respe…

Do you own an iPhone? Do you know how much the people who build them make? Do you know that these workers also commit suicide on the job?

Re: Man Who Stole Plane Near Seattle Raises Troubling Security Question

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valet mode for aircraft. of course we can never eliminate the risk but perhaps a two key mode similar to launch controls for missiles to do anything with a plane other than low power movement?

You put so much (undeserved) faith in the missile launching crowd...000000 comes to mind.

Other industries have controls that prevent simple passwords from being used. Who audits the missile control groups?

Re: Man Who Stole Plane Near Seattle Raises Troubling Security Question

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It seems to me to be a continuation of the pattern of labor 'Going Postal' in the labor hostile environment that has emerged since Reagan. This should be a wake-up call to everyone in the country. We can't survive without being able to trust and respect each other as human beings. Part of that is recognizing that even the most humble occupations deserve a fair wage and chance at advancement in life. If we can't respe…

The media is full of articles about how to avoid being stressed out, how to manage stress, how to avoid being stressed.

Hardly do they ever even discuss that maybe our current labor/employer power balance and paradigm is fundamentally unhealthy, and only exists to fuel the greed of rampant crony capitalism.

Re: Man Who Stole Plane Near Seattle Raises Troubling Security Question

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Does this second person live in the cockpit 24/7? This guy got in an unoccupied plane.

Do programmers just ship code to production without a second person to review code?

All the fucking time. While there is an attempt to avoid and standard deployment procedures hopefully. Sometimes in an emergency you just get shit done and fixed for a client. I heard a mantra regarding this from a pretty big consultant at a major company: be bold be brave, deploy

I guarantee your financial information has passed through that product.

Re: Man Who Stole Plane Near Seattle Raises Troubling Security Question

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I predict we're going to see many more such incidents of labor "going postal" in the near and medium term. Doubly so if the economy contracts and goes into a recession. Just look at the situation in NYC with ride-sharing and all the taxi driver suicides.

>Just look at the situation in NYC with ride-sharing and all the taxi driver suicides. To clarify this, it is not 'taxi driver' suicides, it is suicides by medallion investors. Most drivers do not own medallions. http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2012/06/taxi...

The medallion system reminds me of feudalism. It blows my mind that taxi drivers would defend this system and not flee to Uber/Lyft/etc.
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