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Facebook Container for Firefox

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Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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I used Firefox's containers for about a day, and then I discovered the privacy.firstparty.isolate option (in about:config), which effectively gives every site its own container with no user effort. That, combined with Cookie AutoDelete, seems to work well.

My use case is multiple Google accounts. I can log in to multiple Google accounts at the same time in different containers and answer emails very easily.

On Chrome you have the SessionBox extension - https://sessionbox.io/discover

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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post #147

/sigh. Yet another "privacy" solution that's solves the wrong problem. You prevent the big bad company from spying on your browsing activity while, at the same time, explicitly posting to the big bad company's first-party site messages containing all the juicy bits of private information that you went through all that effort to prevent them from inferring through your other activities. And we pretend this is helping,…

Sorry, you're not seriously entertaining the idea that browsers should just turn off facebook for everyone, are you? There are plenty of parts on this planet where facebook is the main page in people's lives, like it or not, and the problem to solve is one of people's attitude towards that being okay. Not the availability of facebook. You don't change people's minds from "this is useful to me on an hourly basis" to "I won't use this" without going through (many) intermediate step(s), and this is a GREAT intermediate step for those people who can't (for whatever reason) give up facebook, but do understand that maybe it's time to restrict what facebook sees a little. And then we keep the pressure on, as society. This is a long battle, we're nowhere near done.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

#153
post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That the targeted advertising and profiling will still come to you. Live with a person who joins fb mommy groups and buys diapers online? Prepare for a barrage of relevant ads. The main point is that the combination of relationship-inference and geolocation can undo probably 70% of your own privacy protection measures, through ignorant ordinary use of the fb app by friends, family and coworkers. Then combine that wit…

Sure, they will still track you as best as they can (though as I said Facebook doesn't have geolocation access on desktop). This doesn't change the fact that without your browsing profile, Facebook will have less knowledge about you than it would normally have, period. Facebook can't "undo" that.

Facebook can use GeoIP on their servers to position you within a few miles. That's close enough for demographic profiling. And like others mentioned, if anyone uses the Facebook app on your home network, Facebook can link the devices precise position with your IP address.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

#154

You can also run multiple Firefox profiles at the same time, each with different extensions. Something like: $ firefox -ProfileManager -no-remote & Also interesting: https://github.com/mozfreddyb/webext-firstpartyisolation https://github.com/stoically/temporary-containers

You can also create and launch Firefox profiles in a running Firefox instance on the about:profiles page.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

#155
post #147

/sigh. Yet another "privacy" solution that's solves the wrong problem. You prevent the big bad company from spying on your browsing activity while, at the same time, explicitly posting to the big bad company's first-party site messages containing all the juicy bits of private information that you went through all that effort to prevent them from inferring through your other activities. And we pretend this is helping,…

yes, why not just use the Private / incognito mode every time you want to use Facebook directly or indirectly?

That way any Facebook-owned service like logins and website comments plugin will work as expected but will not follow you around in your regular browser window!

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From the extension page:

> "Clicking Facebook Share buttons on other browser tabs will load them within the Facebook Container. You should know that using these buttons passes information to Facebook about the website that you shared from."

> "Because you will be logged into Facebook only in the Container, embedded Facebook comments and Like buttons in tabs outside the Facebook Container will not work. This prevents Facebook from associating information about your activity on websites outside of Facebook to your Facebook identity.

> In addition, websites that allow you to create an account or log in using your Facebook credentials will generally not work properly. Because this extension is designed to separate Facebook use from use of other websites, this behavior is expected."

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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I did the same for many years, blocking third party cookies, having a different browser profile, but none matters.

Recently I downloaded all my fb data and I found that fb gives a tool to advertisers where they can upload my contact information to join all the dots.

The heading says "Advertisers who uploaded a contact list with your info"

https://imgur.com/a/FRsUP

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

#157
why not just use the Private / incognito mode every time you want to use Facebook directly or indirectly?

That way any Facebook-owned service like logins and website comments plugin will work as expected but will not follow you around in your regular browser window!

________________________

From the extension page:

> "Clicking Facebook Share buttons on other browser tabs will load them within the Facebook Container. You should know that using these buttons passes information to Facebook about the website that you shared from."

> "Because you will be logged into Facebook only in the Container, embedded Facebook comments and Like buttons in tabs outside the Facebook Container will not work. This prevents Facebook from associating information about your activity on websites outside of Facebook to your Facebook identity.

> In addition, websites that allow you to create an account or log in using your Facebook credentials will generally not work properly. Because this extension is designed to separate Facebook use from use of other websites, this behavior is expected."

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

#158

I did the same for many years, blocking third party cookies, having a different browser profile, but none matters. Recently I downloaded all my fb data and I found that fb gives a tool to advertisers where they can upload my contact information to join all the dots. The heading says "Advertisers who uploaded a contact list with your info" https://imgur.com/a/FRsUP

That's kinda the opposite. The brands somehow had your info (from accounts you may have created with them, for instance), which they explicitly imported into Facebook specifically to show ads to you etc.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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post #147

/sigh. Yet another "privacy" solution that's solves the wrong problem. You prevent the big bad company from spying on your browsing activity while, at the same time, explicitly posting to the big bad company's first-party site messages containing all the juicy bits of private information that you went through all that effort to prevent them from inferring through your other activities. And we pretend this is helping,…

Sorry, you're not seriously entertaining the idea that browsers should just turn off facebook for everyone, are you? There are plenty of parts on this planet where facebook is the main page in people's lives, like it or not, and the problem to solve is one of people's attitude towards that being okay. Not the availability of facebook. You don't change people's minds from "this is useful to me on an hourly basis" to "…

Big companies like this never go away. They just reshape their public image and keep doing what they are doing. The Facebook thing will blow over. He has friends in high places. Right now this is a show for the public. Later its forgotten and Zuckerberg is back doing whatever he wants to do.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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post #31

We're going from cold war to all-in. Not just a privacy question. Reddit nags me every time I hit the front page, even returning from a story, asking me to log in. For most sites I need to create ublock filters to prevent pop-ups with useless "we use cookies", subscription requests, ads or social media bars that fills half the screen, etc. etc. etc. Every newspaper I read has decided that autostarting video and strea…

When you mentioned reddit I thought you were talking about their "install the app" pop up. They have by far the worst mobile experience out of any site I've use more than once in the last 2 years.

i hate the fact that sometimes it says "continue to the mobile site" and sometimes it says "login to access the mobile site". I prefer to not be logged in. Sometimes when i visit reddit it refuses to let me use their site logged out. Its super inconsistent. When I can't use the site logged out i just give up.

Also sometimes now the location of the "n comments" button becomes a "share" button, with the comments moved over to the side. but again, only sometimes. I keep clicking share on accident, because it happens infrequently enough that I haven't learned to check.

I've started switching to using their .compact site, which has neither problem. Only a small "switch to the new mobile site" button at the top of the page. The thumbnails aren't as large but thats fine with me

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