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Ecuador cuts off Julian Assange's internet access at London embassy

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Re: Ecuador cuts off Julian Assange's internet access at London embassy

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Post by notahacker »

deleteme12345 wrote: post #149
notahacker wrote: post #148

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Last time a Russian double agent died from a poisoning in the UK, the person the victim named as his murderer on his deathbed was elected to the Russian State Duma. Stop taking us for idiots.

And we've never seen victims being clueless about the murderer? Are you for cereal? This is proof of nothing.

Yeah, the Russian intelligence agent known to met the suspect shortly before the poisoning and been present at other areas where polonium was found, known to have rushed back to Russia to have a medical test, and then been named by the suspect as the man handing out the fateful teacup is definitely an unlikely candidate to have carried out the poisoning, and the reason he's since sat in the State Duma and hosted a TV show called "Traitors" is because the Russian state apparatus is completely convinced he was actually a friend and ally of defector Litvinenko and not the man who bumped him off.

Nobody is stupid enough to honestly believe that. Nobody. Jog on troll.

Re: Ecuador cuts off Julian Assange's internet access at London embassy

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Post by jacquesm »

antocv wrote: post #147
jacquesm wrote: post #68

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No, Russia is looking after its own interests in much the same way that America did for many years. After all, it's not as if the Americans are lily white when it comes to influencing other people's elections, deposing properly elected governments abroad and funding revolutions when it suited their best interests. So there is a huge amount of hypocrisy there. But that does not excuse Russia for meddling in the affair…

That is so, which is why I see Russia no more evil than USA. In fact, less so, given the historial record. Funding revolutions, killing 100 000 civilians in another country on other side of the planet from them, was not on Russias list of deeds for past 25 years. Yemen.

Afghanistan, Uzbekistan, Chechenya...

Re: Ecuador cuts off Julian Assange's internet access at London embassy

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Post by deleteme12345 »

notahacker wrote: post #151
deleteme12345 wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And we've never seen victims being clueless about the murderer? Are you for cereal? This is proof of nothing.

Yeah, the Russian intelligence agent known to met the suspect shortly before the poisoning and been present at other areas where polonium was found, known to have rushed back to Russia to have a medical test, and then been named by the suspect as the man handing out the fateful teacup is definitely an unlikely candidate to have carried out the poisoning, and the reason he's since sat in the State Duma and hosted a TV…

Thanks for the fairytale.

Re: Ecuador cuts off Julian Assange's internet access at London embassy

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Post by Grue3 »

deleteme12345 wrote: post #150
codedokode wrote: post #138

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Russia has been doing this for a long time, for example Trotsky was assassinated in 1940 [1]. The goal is to remind the "traitors" that the punishment can come at any time and make them live in fear. It reminds me how some religious communities go after the people who don't follow their rules even after they flee to other country [2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Trotsky#Assassination [2] https://meduza.io/…

Yeah okay. I'm just going to leave this here: https://cs9.pikabu.ru/post_img/2018/03/13/8/1520947357114473... And http://i12.pixs.ru/storage/2/3/6/Bezimyanni_3398267_29746236...

You are being very obvious with these URLs, just sayin'.

Re: Ecuador cuts off Julian Assange's internet access at London embassy

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Post by lawnchair_larry »

dragonwriter wrote: post #84
lawnchair_larry wrote: post #80

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You realize that they can only release what is given to them, right? This criticism only makes sense if they are sitting on a pile of leaked material that is unflattering Russia. There’s no reason to believe that is the case.

> You realize that they can only release what is given to them, right? So, you mean, WikiLeaks is merely a useful-but-innocent tool of Russian intelligence, rather than an active collaborator?

You'd have to put absolutely zero effort into researching their history and earlier leaks to come to the conclusion that they have anything to do with Russia. Even the crazy conspiracy theory that they are actually a CIA operation themselves makes more sense than this, and that one is pretty silly.

Re: Ecuador cuts off Julian Assange's internet access at London embassy

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Post by cinquemb »

colordrops wrote: post #110
robotrout wrote: post #51

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Sure, I support BBC which has a very strong propaganda to news ratio. I also support RT and Al Jazeera. I do not support CNN, because it's ratio is so high it's offensive to me.

An unfortunate element of propaganda is that it is designed to not be detected by the majority of those receiving it, as evidenced by the down votes you are receiving. I don't understand how the HN crowd which is clearly full of very intelligent people don't see that sources like BBC and CNN are clearly propaganda outlets.

At some point an individual has to decide whether to try to fight the beliefs and behaviors of others, or to exploit that they hold/engage in such for some ends.

Re: Ecuador cuts off Julian Assange's internet access at London embassy

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Post by fit2rule »

gwicks56 wrote: post #6

A pringles can, and somebody sympathetic within a mile, and no problem. Unless they threaten to throw him out for accessing the internet.

It makes me wonder just how much of this is actually going on in the neighborhood around the Ecuadoran embassy .. there surely must be sympathetic folks living in the area that are more than willing to share their Wifi with Assange .. has anyone done any scanning in the area and discovered the open "JoinThisNetWorkJulian"-style wifi SSID's that are bound to be around there?

Come to think of it, the nature of the Wifi environment around the embassy must, at the very least, be an interesting subject for a pen-test white-paper ..

Re: Ecuador cuts off Julian Assange's internet access at London embassy

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Post by fit2rule »

Digital-Citizen wrote: post #144
ucaetano wrote: post #53

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> Curious if this will result in a dump of more content or something else. Given how many times he has promised leaks and not delivered, most likely it won't.

Exactly when were each of these promises made and what was promised each time? Please give us the details. So far WikiLeaks' publications are what they claim the publications are, and WikiLeaks has released a number of "insurance" files such as: https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/8823724/WikiLeaks_insurance... https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/8823728/WikiLeaks_insurance... https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/8823733/WikiL…

At this point, the insurance files must contain something absolutely vile and heinous. I really can't imagine what is in them unless of course its the infamous "Hillary killing and eating a baby" video that is rumored to be among the stash of the cognescenti ..

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Post by fit2rule »

Grue3 wrote: post #154
deleteme12345 wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah okay. I'm just going to leave this here: https://cs9.pikabu.ru/post_img/2018/03/13/8/1520947357114473... And http://i12.pixs.ru/storage/2/3/6/Bezimyanni_3398267_29746236...

You are being very obvious with these URLs, just sayin'.

(Ignore content, acquire hatred of URL.)

Re: Ecuador cuts off Julian Assange's internet access at London embassy

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Post by fit2rule »

openasocket wrote: post #141
ficklepickle wrote: post #45

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He kept working against the Russians after the exchange. Lately, he was seeking permission to return to Russia. His phone was off for 4 hours before he was found unconscious.(can't find the sources right now, on mobile, but you can trust me ;) ) He took a meeting, hoping to be allowed back, and instead was poisoned. Sounds plausible to me, but then again its really similar to the plot of McMafia. But it just as easil…

Novichok agents are hardly untraceable. Like pretty much every other compound, you can detect them using mass spectrometry ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_spectrometry ).

.. and in order to do so, you must of course have access to the materials first of all, in order to create the spectrometric signature upon which your comparison - and thus, evidence - is made.

So, no. You can't claim its only available in Russia, if you've positively identified it using these signatures .. since you'd have had to have the material to compare with, yourself ..

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