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Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job

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Post by ndespres »

Turing_Machine wrote: post #132
chrischen wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That depends if you think some Americans would be offended if you claimed Hawaii was its own country. It was also invaded and then forcibly gentrified and colonized. That's not to even mention the entirety of the United States. It's not so much if China has legitimate claims on Tibet so much as it's the pot calling the kettle black. The greatest conquerer on Earth and its modern beneficiaries telling another country…

"That depends if you think some Americans would be offended if you claimed Hawaii was its own country." Do you have an actual example of someone being fired for claiming that Hawai'i was its own country? Edit: apparently you don't. Your analogy does not hold water.

I think the Hawaii example was rhetorical, but you can find examples of Americans being fired for supporting BDS movement or speaking against Israel occupation of Palestine, we even have laws against doing business with BDS supporters in some states. So we do evidently care enough about these sorts of disputes to make laws about them.

Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job

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Post by mistermann »

ucarion wrote: post #137
chrischen wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That depends if you think some Americans would be offended if you claimed Hawaii was its own country. It was also invaded and then forcibly gentrified and colonized. That's not to even mention the entirety of the United States. It's not so much if China has legitimate claims on Tibet so much as it's the pot calling the kettle black. The greatest conquerer on Earth and its modern beneficiaries telling another country…

The government of the United States does not demand that mainland China relinquish control of Tibet. Nor does the USA insist on censoring mainland controversies or on punishing foreigners who say inconvenient things. This difference is essential. You are free to criticize America. People, including politicians, regularly do so. China, despite claiming to be a strong, ascendant power, is remarkably sensitive when it c…

I'm a bit concerned what the world is going to be like once they assume leadership from the US.

Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job

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Post by banned1 »

sib wrote: post #98
banned1 wrote: post #79

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Employees in social media teams should not be clicking LIKE in anything. It’s too risky to the business, and it conflates your personal preferences with corporate business goals. You cannot be yourself on social media anymore. You just have to be inactive, a fake, or pretend to be like what the echo chamber asks you to be.

Just a quick note that you probably mean "conflates" (combine two or more texts, ideas, etc. into one) rather than "conflagrates" (a conflagration is 'an extensive fire that destroys a great deal of land or property.') ;)

You are right! THANK YOU FOR TEACHING ME something. (Fixed it)

Have a great weekend!

Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job

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Post by whoisjuan »

Declanomous wrote: post #44
corobo wrote: post #21

The meat of the story is that Omaha man worked for Marriott hotels on customer support. Their support system allows their agents to like tweets. The man appears to have inadvertently clicked like on a tweet while dealing with a large influx of support messages (due to a promo going on) thanking Marriott for listing Tibet as its own country which was a huge no-no due to Mariott's presence in China. Execs fire him as a…

I totally believe "the UI sucks argument" as well. I can't tell you how many times I've accidentally liked something on Instagram because of the stupid double tap a photo = like, not zoom feature. Instagram is a piece of software millions of people use every day. I've designed software that 5 - 100 people use a day, and I can tell you the UI is going to suck if you have a data architect design the UI for your CRUD ap…

This happens a lot on the reddit mobile app. Sometimes I'm just browsing and out of nowhere I see an orange upvote or a purple downvote that I likely trigger just by scrolling to the comments.

It also happened to me once or twice that I was looking at the Facebook profile of someone and then 2 hours later I got a notification saying that that person accepted my friendship request. Somehow I mistakenly sent those requests.

At least for the latter, I've always thought there should be some impedance to avoid this. Like slide to send request or some other small friction interaction.

Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job

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Post by John_KZ »

banned1 wrote: post #70
JPKab wrote: post #62

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It gets abused for sure, but more often, businesses get to fire bad employees, and this means they are more likely to give some people a chance who wouldn't get one otherwise. Hiring in certain countries is very risky, because it is so costly to fire a bad employee.

Which is why many companies don’t hire many people in France http://www.nortonrosefulbright.com/knowledge/publications/14...

This is also why people in France have stable, long-term jobs, instead of being fired by Wallmart every 6 months due to some war veteran scheme that allows them to save 0.1% on employee salaries.

In this particular case, if the man wasn't trained appropriately to handle international PR while doing so, the wrongdoing lies with the company.

The article itself seems to adopt a certain attitude that I really dislike. For one, I don't believe that the employee clicked accidentally. It really sounds like a lie. Then the arguments alternate between "it's not my job" and "Why should we care about China/other countries? Why should just tell them to f-ck off!". The truth is that both the US and the company seem to have an opinion. The employee, either due to negligence or ignorance, broke that line, and the company faced a backlash. It's not like China is exceptionally evil or something. I hate people trying to vilify entrire countries and politicize everything. It sounds like the author is just looking for a reason to bash China.

Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job

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Post by netheril96 »

analog31 wrote: post #83
kbenson wrote: post #63

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> The real story is he has no employment rights because he's in America and he's "at will." At-will employment is state level, not nation level, so it's not really a "he's in America" thing. Most states subscribe to some version of at-will employment, but various states have different types of exceptions which make it much less clear to apply as a statement to the entire United States (much less the various other gro…

Is there another country that has "at will" employment to the extent that the US does?

China.

Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job

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Post by 8bitsrule »

rndmize wrote: post #50

> China forced Marriott to suspend all online booking for a week at its nearly 300 Chinese hotels. A Chinese leader also demanded the company publicly apologize and “seriously deal with the people responsible,” the Journal reported. I look forward to the coming years where China continues to grow in influence and power, and the useful things they choose to do with them. /s The last time I felt like I was seeing a use…

I think they've been influenced by seeing all the attention DT gets for throwing shit fits.

Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job

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Post by tzakrajs »

_emacsomancer_ wrote: post #138
thisacctforreal wrote: post #81

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Cute, but for anyone who thinks China and the US are similar, please research the persecution of Falun Gong. Here's some heavily sarcastic coverage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_cURws4UaY

I didn't say they were the same, or even equivalent.

> Which democracy are we talking about? China? The US?

You made an equivalency without explicitly stating that they were the same or equivalent. The equivalency you made was that both China and the US could be mistaken for democracies, when in truth only the US could be mistaken for a democracy (since it is a representative democracy). China is well known to practice authoritarian rule by law through Communist Party of China and so it reasonably wouldn't be confused as a democracy.

Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job

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Post by derekp7 »

kodablah wrote: post #26

Stories like this are how companies end up on my mental boycott list which is fairly indefinite especially when their value-add over competitors is limited or non-existent. I'd be glad to read the other side of this as I usually don't like to draw conclusions from pieces like this, but I suspect it's pretty clear in this case. /me slots Marriott just above Nestle in mental Rolodex. Bet they can't quantify that, I don…

I've tried this in the past, but then came to the realization that there aren't really that many ethical companies. And for each item such as this that you hear about, there are millions of incidents from their competitors that go unnoticed.
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