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Switch to stevia instead?
no, switch to xylitol.
No. Train yourself to avoid sweeteners all together :)
Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago
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Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago
#152The whole phenomenon of sugar and fructose being added to virtually everything is beyond comprehension. There are so many people, fat and slim, saying they don't want to be fat, yet eating foods with added sugar every day. Why not just replace all the added sugar with erythritol, for example? The whole situation with sugar reminds me of the situation with opium in early 19th century China
Well, this is the US, and on top of that, it's most often not sugar but hfcs.
Years back there was an NYT Sunday Mag (op ed) piece that blamed increae in waistlines - via the increase usage of HFCS - on farm subsidies from corn.
My editorial: Thanks Uncle Sam.
Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago
#153Makes you wonder what we'll find out is being withheld right now, 50 years from now.
I sometimes wonder which materials I directly interact with on a regular basis that people in a few decades wouldn't touch for anything short of large amounts of money. History tells us there are probably a few. Guessing at least a couple are plastics or plastic additives/coatings of some kind. Maybe whatever they replaced BPA with. Possibly gasoline will qualify. Probably one or two things currently on/in our food.
I predict you can put your screen based electronic devices at the top of that list.
Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago
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There was no fat to remove from pasta sauce. Maybe they also figured out that sugar was addictive and added it everywhere to sell even more food with sugar?
If everything you are eating has sugar added, the item you eat without it will taste bitter and/or bland. Or the sugar made the bland (picked early etc) tomatoes used in the sauce more palateable.
I think this is generally true, but I'm not sure how to explain pasta sauces since I've been paying more attention.
Sugar content in pasta sauces is almost random. Varies from 3 to 10 grams per serving at least. It seems to vary more than almost any other premade item I buy.
And yet, even though I still eat junk too often, and like some treacle, I would not sort sauces based on sugar content.
I can't tell if there's no correlation or if it is literally reversed for my taste buds, but often the high sugar ones are the worst to me.
Just a theory, but maybe the sugar enhances some flavors, like garlic, but masks others, like basil, rather than drawing them all out equally?
I'm not sure how well sugar's complex affect on taste is understood by food scientists, let alone smaller or newer food brands. (What do the generic brands have, a couple chefs and a couple rounds of taste tests? No idea.)
Maybe there are too many possible combinations of ingredients and market segments for producers to all agree on the proper role of sugar, and maybe they're mostly guessing.
If that's true, then we could all probably stand much less added sugar than we/they realize.
Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago
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Of the people I know who have been on a sugar-free diet, all of them continued to eat carrots, even though carrots have an interesting amount of sugar. http://www.sugarstacks.com/carrots.htm So when people say they're on a sugar-free diet, I interpret that to mean they are avoiding refined sugars.
The total amount of sugar is less important than the glycemic load and the insulin response caused. Carrots are high in fibre. "The glycemic index is a value assigned to foods based on how slowly or how quickly those foods cause increases in blood glucose levels" [1] Coca Cola® (63) vs Carrots (39). Higher is worse. [1] https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/glyce...
Coca Cola® (63) vs White Rice (72). Higher is worse. By using that logic, chicken nuggets and Pizza Hut beat plain potatoes. Clearly not a good recipe for a healthy diet.
Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago
#156Makes you wonder what we'll find out is being withheld right now, 50 years from now.
Perhaps it is superstition, perhaps not, but I try to avoid TV dinners or meals which involve microwaving plastics.
That's a good idea. But I think the TV dinner itself might be worse for you than ingesting whatever the by-product of microwaving the dinner's plastic container might be.
Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago
#157Sugar is not far from being a drug in my opinion. It certainly feels addictive and has a definite impact on physical and mental state (especially true with respect to children). In that sense, it should undergo the same level of regulation...
Sugar doesn't cause kids to be hyperactive, if that's what you are referring to:
https://www.webmd.com/parenting/features/busting-sugar-hyper...
Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago
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The reason is that in the 1970s and 80s people started freaking out about fat. Everyone from the FDA to USDA to family doctor was telling people fat was bad. So food producers started making fat-free versions of everything. Only problem is it tasted like shit. So what did they do? They added sugar. So now you have sugar added to everything from salad dressing to pasta sauce to bread and muffins. The latter probably h…
There was no fat to remove from pasta sauce. Maybe they also figured out that sugar was addictive and added it everywhere to sell even more food with sugar?
> There was no fat to remove from pasta sauce.
Olive oil is one of the four basic ingredients. (In addition to tomatoes, garlic, and salt.)
Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago
#159I recently started the Whole 30 diet (paleo), and it's nearly impossible to avoid sugar, corn starch, and dextrose. Almost all fooeds seem to have one of those. Often for no reason: why put sugar in beans and bacon, or corn starch in turkey? The amount of money I'm spending on food jumped by 3x. It seems accurate to say that if you're poor, you're almost forced to eat sugar for economic reasons.
>Almost all fooeds seem to have one of those
Almost all prepared, packaged, or preserved foods have one of those.
The solution is actually pretty simple: eat meals made from base/raw ingredients only.
Beans, nuts, meats, vegetables, fruits, vegetable oils, spices... Endless varieties of stuff to cook with, combine, and eat alone. People just aren't used to eating this way, because prepackaged crap has been the norm for so long.
You are right that if you're poor, it's difficult to eat this way, though.
Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago
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did we just go through a "modern" bubble ? I feel like most of post ww2 era was most the dream of a new perception of the world that could sustain its distortion field for a few decades: - oil based energy now wrecking havoc - "science" based nutrition - free market - communication technology I'm listing the dark parts but there's something odd in the way we probably all swallowed the pill with such a big grin for so…
To level-set, - oil-based energy powered our global economy that was able to research alternative forms of energy - both nutrition and science have always been an unfinished work, "we don't know everything" != "we know nothing" - free markets, for their faults, are still better than any other base system we've come up with - communications technology, I'd hazard we're still grasping with the repurcussions of this re:…
yeah I paint a dark picture, probably too dark, but I have a different view, at least on the information. Today I see and know "all" at least that's what you think. I know what the press feel is important (one month greece is doomed, next month they forgot what greece is). It's almost pure noise. I'm starting to believe that space and isolation has its value, at least to a degree. Then there are the social implications. It's very weird.