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Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone becomes 3rd party

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Post by whatshisface »

tomjen3 wrote: post #119
nkrisc wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ever seen a two year old use a tablet? Don't be shocked if in ten to twelve years we have teenagers who can only use a touch interface and can't type or hate using a mouse.

I was about to comment, it is very annoying to write on a tablet for any kind of school length work. I would hate to write an essay on a tablet. Then I realized I have installed Dragon on this computer, and there wasn't even a reason for me to type this reply. So I will risk a guess and assume that in the future essays will be spoken, not written. No doubt there will be an epic fight over this, as people try to defen…

Hello, computer.

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Bob, find some earphones and stop complaining. I'm​ not the one that pushed for open-plan.

Computer, please delete the previous paragraph.

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Close squigly brace.

Re: Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone becomes 3rd party

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Post by dTal »

krrrh wrote: post #111
WorldMaker wrote: post #47

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I've been joking lately that there is a new one syllable word for "personal computer": phone. At the current rate that's how the language will shift. I suppose we'll know if people start referring to things like "macOS deskphones" and think "laptop" always meant "laptop phone". :) It's like those futurist ads from the 50s (and 80s/90s) AT&T that soon there will be phones capable of amazing things everywhere in our li…

Mobile phones are called "Handys" in German. It's become such a satisfying and appropriate name for handheld computers, as distinct from traditional personal computers. In British English, they've always called cellphones "mobiles", which is also a nice short name for mobile computers.

I think this usage is dying out in British English in much the same way as the word "auto" for car. People still speak of "mobile networks" and "auto dealerships", but they buy "phones" and "cars".

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Post by i_cant_speel »

kome wrote: post #106
mcherm wrote: post #8

I completely disagree with the title. The fact that "telephony" can be an app on the phone is a WONDERFUL thing. It means that the author of this article has a choice, as opposed to NOT having a choice.

But if you read the article, it's all about not having a choice. Gosh, HN can be so ideological...

I would have loved to read the article but it's currently down.

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Post by kllrnohj »

s73ver wrote: post #141
on_and_off wrote: post #93

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Again, if the dialer is a system component does this and you can't remove it, you are out of luck. Since the dialer is an app, if for some reason you don't like it, you can deactivate it (you can't uninstall preloaded apps since they are on a private system partition, but disabling it is enough : it does not appear in the app least and can't startup). So you just have to install another that suits you better.

The thing that did that IS a system component. They can't remove it. They can only disable it.

Disabling it is every bit as effective as removing it, though. It can't be removed because it's on a read-only partition that pulls double duty as the factory reset partition. But once disabled it's as good as removed. It doesn't run. It doesn't get loaded. It basically doesn't exist outside of the button that restores it.

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Post by dTal »

sevensor wrote: post #121
ethbro wrote: post #88

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Before laptops became physically possible due to LCDs there were portable computers [1] (yes, I played with one my high school lab had). I suspect in the future we'll have curious historians trying to figure out how the phrase "personal computer" ended up being shortened to "phone". [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_computer

I like how minicomputer used to mean "computer that's only as big as a chest freezer." Every now and then I hear laypeople use the term "mini-computer" to mean a computer that's really small by their standards, like a raspberry Pi.

And then we had "microcomputers" (desktop PC sized). Rather disappointed we didn't call laptops "nanocomputers" and phones "picocomputers" :)

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Post by maverick_iceman »

alasdair_ wrote: post #118
nkrisc wrote: post #101

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Ever seen a two year old use a tablet? Don't be shocked if in ten to twelve years we have teenagers who can only use a touch interface and can't type or hate using a mouse.

It's more fun when they try to swipe the TV and can't understand why it doesn't work the same way.

I sometimes do miss the functionality of touching/swiping my laptop.

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Post by mcpherrinm »

muppetman wrote: post #69
tzakrajs wrote: post #22

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And vacation sweepstakes, and shitty recruiters, and IRS scams, and... This must be the elephant in the room. Traditional telephony has become dominated by bad actors. They hit a critical mass and now my phone app is a waste of space.

This must be an American thing. In New Zealand I still use the phone app for talking to people. I've never recieved a spam call - a few calls from companies I already donate too asking for more etc, but that's it. How many "bad" calls do you get a month?

I get about 2 per week. This was true in Canada & the US -- Canada used to be much worse but has gotten better.

However, in both cases, it was nearly 100% spam. I talk to family via video chats, and friends via facebook, hangouts, whatsapp, etc.

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Post by kalmari »

WorldMaker wrote: post #47
nkrisc wrote: post #12

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I don't carry a phone in my pocket, I carry a personal computer that also makes voices calls over cellular networks.

I've been joking lately that there is a new one syllable word for "personal computer": phone. At the current rate that's how the language will shift. I suppose we'll know if people start referring to things like "macOS deskphones" and think "laptop" always meant "laptop phone". :) It's like those futurist ads from the 50s (and 80s/90s) AT&T that soon there will be phones capable of amazing things everywhere in our li…

i like the term pda better that also happens to be a phone.

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Post by stuaxo »

krrrh wrote: post #111
WorldMaker wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been joking lately that there is a new one syllable word for "personal computer": phone. At the current rate that's how the language will shift. I suppose we'll know if people start referring to things like "macOS deskphones" and think "laptop" always meant "laptop phone". :) It's like those futurist ads from the 50s (and 80s/90s) AT&T that soon there will be phones capable of amazing things everywhere in our li…

Mobile phones are called "Handys" in German. It's become such a satisfying and appropriate name for handheld computers, as distinct from traditional personal computers. In British English, they've always called cellphones "mobiles", which is also a nice short name for mobile computers.

Mobile is short for mobile phone. I think most people are most likely to say "bring your phone", rather than "bring your mobile".
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