I could see 20% false positives on spam for Linus equating to 0.1% of false positives across the board since I suspect the people emailing Linus are 200 times more likely to be running their own mail server than the general public.
I agree completely. Wasn't there a thread here a just few days ago discussing Gmail consistently marking personal mail servers as spam? EDIT: Found it. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9855030
Pretty ironic, then, that many suggestions in comments (on the source) are "you should just run your own mail server". Maybe two 'wrongs' do make a right..
I could see 20% false positives on spam for Linus equating to 0.1% of false positives across the board since I suspect the people emailing Linus are 200 times more likely to be running their own mail server than the general public.
I don't know about the spam filters but Torvalds' rants when he's onto something are awesome.
This is one of the reasons I use Google Apps for Business for email (that and I find running mail servers tedious) as deliverability is consistently simpler.
Having to use a Google product instead of your own mail server, in order to have your email delivered to Google customers, sounds like anti-competitive business practices to me. You'd think they'd be a wee bit more careful with something like that given EU interest in them...
Your mail server isn't real competition to Gmail. Yahoo and Outlook probably are, but considering Gmail handles their mail fine, I'm not sure "anti-competitive" is the right angle here.
I could see 20% false positives on spam for Linus equating to 0.1% of false positives across the board since I suspect the people emailing Linus are 200 times more likely to be running their own mail server than the general public.
On top of that, how many of those thousands of threads are unique individuals.
I would venture a guess that many or most of them are coming from similar people, or at very least similar domains, or even the same mail server.
I've had a problem with false positives in my spam folder for months. A large percentage of the email newsletters I subscribe to end up in my spam folder every day, and clicking Notspam doesn't help. I can Notspam a certain newsletter every day for a week, and then the next day that same newsletter will end up in my Spam folder once again. I'm starting to think that Notspam signals have no effect at an individual lev…
How easy is it to unsubscribe from those newsletters? Is there a one-click unsubscribe link that doesn't require you to login or enter anything before unsubscribing you? If I've subscribed to a mailing list or newsletter and there isn't a one-click unsubscribe I'll click the Spam button to get it out of my inbox instead of going through their procedure. One-Click Unsubscribe is paramount for mailing lists and newslet…
If your newsletter has a good reputation then clicking "mark as spam" in Gmail prompts the user to automatically unsubscribe instead of marking spam, or to do both. If your newsletter has marginal or bad reputation or does not offer automatic unsubscription then that doesn't appear.
A few months ago, I wrote a simple Android app and put it on the Play Store. Now every two weeks I receive unsolicited spammy emails about ad campaigns and increasing user awareness. Funny how those get through the filter.
A few months ago, I wrote a simple Android app and put it on the Play Store. Now every two weeks I receive unsolicited spammy emails about ad campaigns and increasing user awareness. Funny how those get through the filter.
sort of doubly ironic that many other Google service emails that you actually want to receive get filtered...
Interesting. A few days ago I stopped receiving pull request emails as well. Granted I routinely delete these after I process them - but I was alarmed when I checked my spam and saw them there.
Which is illegal in the US[1] (and I believe EU, as well), and hence deserves to be reported as spam. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4496688
A big problem I've had is that many of these are "business relationship/transactional" e-mails, which play by different rules. My address is my first name + last initial (neither of which are all that uncommon), and this is made much worse by Gmails idiotic ignoring of periods in addresses. There is a dude in Denver, CO who is absolutely convinced his e-mail address is tyler.e@gmail.com. It isn't. I'm really sick of…
This happens to me all the time as well. I also have firstname.lastname@gmail.com and apparently a lot of other people seem to think they do as well.
Or at least, they have firstname.lastname1@gmail.com and people easily forget to add the number.
I wish there was a better way to deal with this type of situation other than constantly sending "please fix your address book" emails. Email is a broken system.