Apple OS X El Capitan • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple OS X El Capitan

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Post by kllrnohj » Tue, Jun 09, 2015, 2:51 PM UTC

crylon wrote: post #119

kllrnohj wrote: post #112

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Apple more or less abandoned OpenGL years ago. The state of OpenGL on OS X is a trainwreck. It's outdated by about 5 years. Just look at the supported version list: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202823 Note that there's a lot of hardware on that list that supports OpenGL 4.5 and indeed has drivers for that on other platforms but on OS X all top out at 4.1. That may not sound like a big deal, but OpenGL 4.3 brough…

Could OpenGL be implemented as a cross-platform library on top of Metal/Mantle/Vulkan/DX12?

What makes you think Apple is going to keep their OS X GPU drivers up to date this time?

Re: Apple OS X El Capitan

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Post by jfmercer » Tue, Jun 09, 2015, 4:03 PM UTC

apendleton wrote: post #35

I was probably stupidly hoping this might finally be the release where they actually did something about their awful antiquated filesystem. Maybe next year.

I've been hoping for exactly the same thing.

Re: Apple OS X El Capitan

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Post by lmg643 » Tue, Jun 09, 2015, 5:48 PM UTC

rsfinn wrote: post #108

lmg643 wrote: post #23

will we be able to change the zoom on the font in an email without increasing the font size? Huge PITA on Mac compared to Windows.

Right-click in the window's toolbar (or title bar), choose "Customize Toolbar...", and drag the "Smaller"/"Bigger" pair of control into the toolbar. I agree this is not very discoverable compared to the usual Zoom In / Zoom Out menu items. Mail suffers from its age in many ways.

thanks for responding, I will try this out at home. Microsoft Outlook for Mac 2011 does not have this functionality, although the Windows version has for years.

I figured other users might have this type of problem as well but for all the downvotes...I guess not.

This minor feature was enough to drive me away from Mac Mail, and Outlook for Mac, over to Outlook on a Windows Virtual Machine.

Having a high-res 27" monitor is a blessing in many ways, but a literal headache in others, particularly late night.

Re: Apple OS X El Capitan

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Post by Spiritus » Tue, Jun 09, 2015, 6:55 PM UTC

Spiritus wrote: post #71

Anyone know what Python version comes bundled with El Capitan? I assume it's still 2.7.x, but one can always dream they have moved to Python 3 :)

Answering my own question:

    $ python --version
    Python 2.7.6

Re: Apple OS X El Capitan

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Post by izacus » Tue, Jun 09, 2015, 7:01 PM UTC

justsid wrote: post #122

Artemis2 wrote: post #100

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For a computer that costs thousands of dollars. Is that too much to ask that Apple make proper drivers for the one new model of discrete graphics cards they ship every year?

I’ve talked about this with one of the guys at Apple who writes graphics drivers. Basically vendors give them their Windows drivers and they change them to work against IOKit. No idea what my point is, besides, “it’s probably not that easy”. But they are on the Vulkan team and probably now have experience providing a similar API, so I’m hopeful the Macs get great adoption for Vulkan.

Remember that for example nVidia uses exactly the same codebase for Windows and Linux, and Linux gets same performance as Windows with OpenGL.

Re: Apple OS X El Capitan

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Post by maxxxxx » Tue, Jun 09, 2015, 10:31 PM UTC

pmdulaney wrote: post #29

When Apple switched from the big cats naming scheme to "places in California" I predicted (mostly to my adult children, who all have Apple computers): "How much ya wanna bet it's gonna be a cold day in hell when they name a build after someplace in SOUTHERN California?" If I'm wrong, I suppose the first build named after something in SoCal will be called "Joshua Tree" -- nice tie in with U2.

OSXI Tijuana? Let's go international.