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iOS 7 looks familiar

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Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by nikster »

Geee wrote: post #85
greghinch wrote: post #70

These arguments always strike me as coming from people who don't actually understand what design is. The folks who think that design is the font face, the weight of lines, the colors used. Those are all facets of design, but they are essentially just tools to accomplish the goal: experience and engagement. What you are noticing are just trends, and this is nothing new. Look back over the history of even just twentiet…

No, this isn't true this time. I have been using iOS 7 on iPhone 5 for a day now, and I have mixed feelings. I have always trusted Apple to 'get it right' and be delighted with thought-out details and just no-frills great UX. I know it's Beta, but it honestly looks and feels like Android with a bit of lag here and there, some stuttering animations, confusing unlock and answer call screens, too thin fonts for my taste…

I've been playing with iOS 7 on my iPhone 5 for a day now as well.

It's utterly fantastic. What is surprising is how much all the apps have changed - all the functionality was seemingly ripped apart and put back together.

It's definitely rough. This is a beta, not a Google "let's call it beta even though it's actually finished". A real beta. With plenty of bugs; occasional crashes. Lots of graphics glitches esp. when using 3rd party apps. Seems to use tons of battery.

If you don't understand what a beta is, better don't install this. Beta means buggy.

But as far as the UI is concerned, it's fantastic. It's beyond that - it feels as if a great weight has been lifted from iOS and I can feel the blood, sweat, and tears, as well as enthusiasm and sheer euphoria, of the people putting this together in an insane timeframe. 7 months!

Sure there's inconsistencies in the design - those will get fixed over time, probably before the GM; there's so many glitches - I expect some will remain past GM. There's some weirdness that'll only get fixed next year.

But all in all, this is one fantastic update. This is Apple at its best. If you can't see that, I feel sorry for you, but I also feel confident that you will see it in hindsight, next year, when everyone will talk about how Apple re-invented itself yet again with iOS7.

Samsung meanwhile is already hard at work copying all those features, expect them to pop up in Android within the next 6 months. Parallax background will be first.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

#142

Post by ricardobeat »

ruswick wrote: post #119
Geee wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, this isn't true this time. I have been using iOS 7 on iPhone 5 for a day now, and I have mixed feelings. I have always trusted Apple to 'get it right' and be delighted with thought-out details and just no-frills great UX. I know it's Beta, but it honestly looks and feels like Android with a bit of lag here and there, some stuttering animations, confusing unlock and answer call screens, too thin fonts for my taste…

> I know it's Beta, but it honestly looks and feels like Android with a bit of lag here and there. This sort of lag has been a common artifact throughout the iPhone's history. Crashing apps, lag, and outright unresponsiveness are daily occurrences on my iPhone 5. It's honestly gotten to the point where, if I didn't have an astronomical amount of money tied up in their ecosystem, I'd switch to a Nexus 4 tonight.

You clearly have never used a pre-ICS Android device. A "flagship" Motorola Dext/Cliq/Droid felt like a chinese toy phone next to an iPod/iPhone runing iOS 1.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by nikster »

iOS7 after day 1.

This Steve Jobs quote comes to mind: "Design is not how something looks; design is how it works"

Everything about iOS, and all the included apps, has been taken apart, and put back together. Everything has been questioned.

This is amazing because I think it's the basis that will take Apple and/or iOS to a whole new level. iOS 7 is not an evolution - it's a revolution.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by sigmar »

ricardobeat wrote: post #142
ruswick wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I know it's Beta, but it honestly looks and feels like Android with a bit of lag here and there. This sort of lag has been a common artifact throughout the iPhone's history. Crashing apps, lag, and outright unresponsiveness are daily occurrences on my iPhone 5. It's honestly gotten to the point where, if I didn't have an astronomical amount of money tied up in their ecosystem, I'd switch to a Nexus 4 tonight.

You clearly have never used a pre-ICS Android device. A "flagship" Motorola Dext/Cliq/Droid felt like a chinese toy phone next to an iPod/iPhone runing iOS 1.

what does any of his comment have to do with pre-ICS phones? he was talking about switching to a nexus 4

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by jmduke »

nikster wrote: post #143

iOS7 after day 1. This Steve Jobs quote comes to mind: "Design is not how something looks; design is how it works" Everything about iOS, and all the included apps, has been taken apart, and put back together. Everything has been questioned. This is amazing because I think it's the basis that will take Apple and/or iOS to a whole new level. iOS 7 is not an evolution - it's a revolution.

iOS 7 is not an evolution - it's a revolution

What the hell does that even mean?

We can wax poetic about design and UX or we can accept that what they did was change the way something looks and feels, which is ultimately not the same thing as changing what something does.

I'm not underplaying the importance of design, but I think calling something that ultimately does not affect the capabilities of the device a 'revolution' is a bit of an exaggeration.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by pizza »

Geee wrote: post #85
greghinch wrote: post #70

These arguments always strike me as coming from people who don't actually understand what design is. The folks who think that design is the font face, the weight of lines, the colors used. Those are all facets of design, but they are essentially just tools to accomplish the goal: experience and engagement. What you are noticing are just trends, and this is nothing new. Look back over the history of even just twentiet…

No, this isn't true this time. I have been using iOS 7 on iPhone 5 for a day now, and I have mixed feelings. I have always trusted Apple to 'get it right' and be delighted with thought-out details and just no-frills great UX. I know it's Beta, but it honestly looks and feels like Android with a bit of lag here and there, some stuttering animations, confusing unlock and answer call screens, too thin fonts for my taste…

Android as in an Android device you personally have used for a while, or Android as a pejorative?

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

#147

Post by spaux »

nikster wrote: post #141
Geee wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, this isn't true this time. I have been using iOS 7 on iPhone 5 for a day now, and I have mixed feelings. I have always trusted Apple to 'get it right' and be delighted with thought-out details and just no-frills great UX. I know it's Beta, but it honestly looks and feels like Android with a bit of lag here and there, some stuttering animations, confusing unlock and answer call screens, too thin fonts for my taste…

I've been playing with iOS 7 on my iPhone 5 for a day now as well. It's utterly fantastic. What is surprising is how much all the apps have changed - all the functionality was seemingly ripped apart and put back together. It's definitely rough. This is a beta, not a Google "let's call it beta even though it's actually finished". A real beta. With plenty of bugs; occasional crashes. Lots of graphics glitches esp. when…

I disagree. This seems to me like something that wouldn't have happened under the supervision of Jobs. I feel like the redesign of their UI hasn't gone far enough, that there attempt to copy other trends is different than what apple has done before. I believe that with this update, apple has put the final nail in the coffin to remove the stigma of "it's apple, so it's better."

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by krichman »

nikster wrote: post #143

iOS7 after day 1. This Steve Jobs quote comes to mind: "Design is not how something looks; design is how it works" Everything about iOS, and all the included apps, has been taken apart, and put back together. Everything has been questioned. This is amazing because I think it's the basis that will take Apple and/or iOS to a whole new level. iOS 7 is not an evolution - it's a revolution.

I disagree that it's a revolution but think it's a much needed refresher. They also introduced some features that I think they've been lacking. It's a much better upgrade than 5 and 6 IMO.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by smegel »

I'm not convinced. They seem to share a very high level "clean" theme, but there are enough differences to make me feel it is not a knock off. It does make their old design look rather gaudy though.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

_progger_ wrote: post #39
rimantas wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then why don't you do it? Redesigning the entire OS is a bit more complex than proclaiming that it is similar to something and you can do it better.

My point is that you could expect such an obvious decision as making a mix of UX styles of two other competing platforms to be executed a bit better.

Design always looks easier than it really is. Even the most shanzhai designers must work very hard to copy a design given other constraints (cost) they are limited by. And the imitation often misses many details.
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