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The new Google Hangouts will not support XMPP

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Re: The new Google Hangouts will not support XMPP

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post #109

This is incredibly confusing. The sentences seem to alternate, between "Your end users will be affected, you must do something" and "Your end users will not be affected". Some of the sentences seem to imply this is isolated to AppEngine ("Your users may use any chat client that supports XMPP","the changes discussed above have no impact on non-Google XMPP clients") and others seem to imply that Hangouts is going to co…

Standard XMPP clients still work. If you use Pidgin or Adium or other similar clients, you can still send and receive messages to Google users regardless of whether they're using Hangouts. If you have an App Engine instance, and it uses the App Engine XMPP Service[1] to send messages to people, then that will stop working for users who switch to Hangouts. [1] https://developers.google.com/appengine/articles/using_xmp…

Thanks, this clarified things a lot.

Re: The new Google Hangouts will not support XMPP

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure. Much of the Google Talk video stuff was all designed for XMPP; they actively took part in the standardization at times. WhatsApp is XMPP, fundamentally, in any case.

Except there is no way to interface with it on the desktop level.

Yes there is. The maemo/meego community reverse engineered it and created a proof-of-concept java app, and a totally working meego app for the N9. Check their forum for protocol info, etc, but there's clearly enough to create a desktop app (you'll still need a phone to create the account though).

Re: The new Google Hangouts will not support XMPP

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post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, if you have a client connecting to Google's XMPP servers, your messages will not show up if the other user is only logged in on Hangouts. Hangouts ALSO can't send messages to an XMPP only user (even if Google is hosting the talk servers, as is the case for my Google Apps domains).

Did you try it? (that doesn't match what other people have explained to me)

Yes, I did try it.
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