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Re: Google Kills Its RSS Subscription Browser Extension Too

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Post by nwzpaperman »

camus wrote: post #122
nwzpaperman wrote: post #87

I know from some of the parties that have shown interest in my company that the highest levels of media are very concerned about being not just marginalized, but trivialized. We have made ZERO deals for, always, one or both of two reasons: 1) The investors want to control the content and under the CDA/DMCA definitions be publishers. 2) The belief that people are unwilling to pay for news. Up until 2012, there were do…

dude you must be on good kush ...

That is legal in Colorado, but I abstain just to be safe!

Re: Google Kills Its RSS Subscription Browser Extension Too

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Post by thedragon4453 »

baby wrote: post #92
mindcrime wrote: post #85

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It's also a great way to piss people off and have them go "fuck this guy and his shitty blog with no RSS feed" and mentally assign it to bin 13 and never come back. When I visit a blog or site with no RSS feed, I know my first thought is something like "What a bunch of amateurs, why would I waste my time with this?" Now, of course, people like me (and other HN readers) may not be your target audience, and your decisi…

I feel like you're over reacting. It's really not a game changer feature. I know I'll hurt the feeling of 1% of my visitors by not including it, the clever rest of the RSS users will first judge whether the content is worth it or not.

A blog almost never grabs me immediately. Usually, if I get sent back there a time or two, I subscribe. If I can't subscribe, you have to have some extraordinary content for me to return. As in "man I've got to read as much as I have time for". Usually even for my favorite stuff, that's not the case. For even my favorite blogs, I rarely read more than 1/2. Most of the stuff I sub to is more like 1/10.

Basically, for users like me (which I'm guessing a lot of HN users are), you're killing your blog in the cradle. Especially given that there isn't a lot of likelihood that your blog is entirely unique, I'll likely just go with an alternative that I can subscribe to, and click through when I want to read something.

Anyway, my two cents. I also recognize that I am definitely not the average user. But if you're catering to a technical crowd...

Re: Google Kills Its RSS Subscription Browser Extension Too

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Post by mike-cardwell »

BHSPitMonkey wrote: post #118
mike-cardwell wrote: post #64

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Chrome is created by an Ad company so that they can make more money selling Ads. People are willing to overlook this fact because they trust that Google wont put it's own desire to make profit over keeping the web open. People are losing the trust that this is the case. If somebody comes up with some new technology that makes the web better in some way, but also means it's more difficult or impossible to target adver…

Does using Chrome or Chromium somehow serve Google and its nefarious goals?

I don't see how anybody could answer that question with anything other than yes?

Re: Google Kills Its RSS Subscription Browser Extension Too

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Post by baby »

thedragon4453 wrote: post #142
baby wrote: post #92

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I feel like you're over reacting. It's really not a game changer feature. I know I'll hurt the feeling of 1% of my visitors by not including it, the clever rest of the RSS users will first judge whether the content is worth it or not.

A blog almost never grabs me immediately. Usually, if I get sent back there a time or two, I subscribe. If I can't subscribe, you have to have some extraordinary content for me to return. As in "man I've got to read as much as I have time for". Usually even for my favorite stuff, that's not the case. For even my favorite blogs, I rarely read more than 1/2. Most of the stuff I sub to is more like 1/10. Basically, for…

I'm not addressing to a technical crowd and I doubt the majority of HN uses RSS.

Re: Google Kills Its RSS Subscription Browser Extension Too

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Post by Kiro »

subsection1h wrote: post #125
Kiro wrote: post #38

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You don't need updates from 10 to 20 websites. Find one or two good aggregators. HN and Facebook are enough for me.

HN and Facebook are enough for me. Do your favorite researchers post comments at Facebook regarding their latest papers?

Yes, since I follow them on Facebook.

Re: Google Kills Its RSS Subscription Browser Extension Too

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Post by Kiro »

icebraining wrote: post #111
Kiro wrote: post #38

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You don't need updates from 10 to 20 websites. Find one or two good aggregators. HN and Facebook are enough for me.

HN and such aggregators are nice for fluff content, which appeals to a broad range of people. More specific content either isn't aggregated, or the aggregators themselves are so niche that they only update once in a while (e.g. Lambda-the-Ultimate). And frankly, while obviously none is indispensable for my life or well-being, I'd rather miss out on HN than on the smaller blogs and feeds.

What about Facebook?

Re: Google Kills Its RSS Subscription Browser Extension Too

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Post by icebraining »

Kiro wrote: post #146
icebraining wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN and such aggregators are nice for fluff content, which appeals to a broad range of people. More specific content either isn't aggregated, or the aggregators themselves are so niche that they only update once in a while (e.g. Lambda-the-Ultimate). And frankly, while obviously none is indispensable for my life or well-being, I'd rather miss out on HN than on the smaller blogs and feeds.

What about Facebook?

I wouldn't know, I don't have an account.

Re: Google Kills Its RSS Subscription Browser Extension Too

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Post by streptomycin »

saraid216 wrote: post #135
streptomycin wrote: post #54

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No they didn't. Still works: https://api.twitter.com/1/statuses/user_timeline.rss?screen_... They have said they're planning to get rid of it sometime soon, though. Sucks for people like me who used Google Reader to keep track of Twitter RSS feeds, ha. Google Reader is really easy to replace, at least. I'm much more upset about Twitter.

What exactly is it about Twitter that's indispensable for you?

Who said anything about indispensable? There are lots of things I like that aren't indispensable. One of those things is being able to follow a few people on Twitter in the same place that I follow all the rest of my RSS feeds. I don't think I'll kill myself if I can no longer do that, though.

Re: Google Kills Its RSS Subscription Browser Extension Too

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Post by mark_l_watson »

nonamegiven wrote: post #117
mark_l_watson wrote: post #73

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"I don't want to "like" them or add them to my social networks. I just want to read their shit." +1 this nails it. I do share content links a few times a month on twitter and g+ but basically I want to read interesting stuff. I have also started to realize that I rely too much on HN and Prismatic - nice sources of interesting material, but still limited. This appropriate shit storm over google moving to a walled g+ g…

I have this vague idea of an open, minimal social network that is little more than the internet: - If you want to just read, use an RSS reader and subscribe to ... stuff. - If you want to participate, get a personal page via someone like Wordpress that serves RSS , or run your own via your choice of technology if you want. - If you want to build relationships between RSS serving participants, use the missing RSS feat…

That sounds good to me. In the last day I have moved my blog and primary email service away from Google to my own servers: a little more of a hassle, but it seemed like a good thing to do.

Re: Google Kills Its RSS Subscription Browser Extension Too

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Post by justinkelly »

hey guys

i've forked the google rss extension, updated it and loaded it to the chrome store - so that it works with feedly, newsblur and theoldread * have removed google reader, igoogle etc.. from the list

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/rss-subscription-e...

cheers

justin

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