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Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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Post by ohwp »

imgabe wrote: post #50

For those of you who don't think this is a big deal. Instagram is explicitly stating that they're going to sell the use of your pictures to third parties. They're also going to start showing ads in their news stream. I know the pictures are of too low quality to be plastered on a billboard. That's not the point. What I expect they want to happen is something like this: I post a picture of me drinking a Coke to Instag…

"I know the pictures are of too low quality to be plastered on a billboard."

Don't be too sure about that. Billboard pictures are very lowres (sometimes even 10ppi) because most of the time they are viewed from a large distance.

Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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Post by return0 »

imgabe wrote: post #50

For those of you who don't think this is a big deal. Instagram is explicitly stating that they're going to sell the use of your pictures to third parties. They're also going to start showing ads in their news stream. I know the pictures are of too low quality to be plastered on a billboard. That's not the point. What I expect they want to happen is something like this: I post a picture of me drinking a Coke to Instag…

I think it boils down to economics: Why give away your chance to become a poster child and the money that goes with it? Taking your photos elsewhere will kill that chance, and the accompanying unfairness.

I wonder why instagram didn't opt for the revenue sharing model with its users.

Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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Post by eternalban »

webwright wrote: post #88
jellicle wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Add to that-- if this happens, I certainly won't be the first one it happens to and will almost certainly have an opportunity to delete my account when I start hearing about this happening in the wild. Even if I don't delete it, the chance of my crappy photos getting found/used out of the MANY BILLIONS on instagram also seems laughably small. You don't understand the situation. When you delete your account, it won'…

"You don't understand the situation." I sure do. My point was-- the first time this happens, there will be an outcry that makes this one seem small. At that point, I can delete my account. Maybe the poor sucker who was the first victim can't, but I can. MAYBE Instagram at this point is so malevolent that they give me the finger and retain my photos, but that seems kinda unlikely. Edit: And I couldn't give a single da…

You still don't understand the situation. By taking down Instagram now we'll send a clear message that taking liberties with our privacy and personal identity and likeness is /not acceptable/.

Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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Post by zemanel »

Sometimes when these discussions appear, people talk of alternatives like "personal clouds" or "peer to peer photo sharing and blogging".

I know of at least Diaspora but there is at least one other i can't remember the name of, that you can install on your own server but i doubt that these projects in their current form will ever take off and be of any competition to the Facebook/Instagram models, because the technical aspect is just too complicated to the average user (assuming it to be a kind of user that has no existing or minimal skills to install Wordpress on a shared hosting).

Was just wondering about this on my way here to the "office" and a solution for this mess regarding user content ownership, privacy and companies "slipping the rug" under the user's feet could be the separation of service provider, the software itself and hosting (where the content is) ?

Basically something along the lines of:

* the user signing up for the hosting part on his prefered provider (Amazon Cloud, Rackspace, Linode, Google appengine, etc)

* the user signing up for his favourite social software provider, let's say as example, software companies that provided on-demand installed software distributions that provided services similar to Facebook, Instagram, Posterous, etc ... including personal e-mail services. Could be addons on a base system or a full distribution per se, rolled on subdomains (photos.bilbobaggins.com, blog.bilbobaggins.com, ... )

* the software provider would be given access (through OAuth or whatever credential system) to roll their software on the hosting provided by the user)

* discoverability (ask aggregated public timelines and the sorts) could work based on a system akin to DNS for humans/peer to peer.

* a form of standard for interoperability between service/software providers would have to bee in place for the users to be able to switch between them and allow competition.

This would mean that:

* users would retain ownership of their content since they control the hosting, meaning they could pull the plug on a service provider or switch to the competition.

* since much of this can be abstracted from the user as automated devops keep getting better, the technical barrier would be lower.

* most of the hosting and networking costs would be shared between the users, so the software providers could focus more on business models relating to a better service/software, much like app stores work these days i guess?

Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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Post by gbog »

malandrew wrote: post #139
webwright wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are tons of stock photography models who live with this risk for a bit of compensation. So they make (say) $100 to be in a photo and have a 0.01% chance of being in an ad they find objectionable. I get a free/fun app instead of $100. Instead of a .01% chance, I have a .00000001% of appearing in an objectionable ad (my photos just aren't as good as pros, and I'm just not that pretty). Add to that-- if this happe…

I think the more interesting thing about the ad approach described by the OP that you are commenting on is that it's not unlikely that this advertising approach if automated just ends up completely debasing the value of photo ads entirely. An ad with a gorgeous woman (or handsome guy) prominantly drinking a coke is going to be far more effective than a nobody casually drinking a coke. The chance of a random instagram…

you describe old fashioned ads pics, but the next generation of ads could be very different. maybe some marketing finally discovered that repeating 100 times the same glamour expensive pic is boring and not efficient. display an amateur pic that is new every f5 can work much better to attract attention, with a good algorithm, and the coke can is not necessary, a vague similarity with someone you know would be enough.

I regret not having instagram account I could wipe right now.

Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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Post by pretoriusB »

eternalban wrote: post #143
webwright wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"You don't understand the situation." I sure do. My point was-- the first time this happens, there will be an outcry that makes this one seem small. At that point, I can delete my account. Maybe the poor sucker who was the first victim can't, but I can. MAYBE Instagram at this point is so malevolent that they give me the finger and retain my photos, but that seems kinda unlikely. Edit: And I couldn't give a single da…

You still don't understand the situation. By taking down Instagram now we'll send a clear message that taking liberties with our privacy and personal identity and likeness is /not acceptable/.

>By taking down Instagram now we'll send a clear message that taking liberties with our privacy and personal identity and likeness is /not acceptable/.

I call BS. Having already accepted the Patriot Act, mass domestic surveillance, phone taps without a warrant, most of our data in Google/Facebook/MS/Apple/Dropbox/Amazon clouds, etc, we're now supposed "send a clear message that taking liberties with our privacy and personal identity and likeness is /not acceptable/."???

It's the opposite: few things have been MORE acceptable by american society than companies and governments taking liberties with our privacy and personal identity.

Sending a message to Instagram? It's like being inside a burning house and we respond by stomping on our cigarette.

Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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Post by pretoriusB »

grinich wrote: post #82
hkmurakami wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It'd be even more effective (read: messed up) if they take your coke-drinking-photo and show this in your own friends' feeds as an advertisement, with the kind of caption you mentioned. I experienced the effectiveness of seeing a friend's face on an ad first hand a few years ago, when a friend of mine put up a job-posting ad on facebook with his face on it. My engagement with that ad was ridiculously high and it lead…

Why is it "messed up" if it makes advertising more engaging? Facebook essentially does what you describe, by showing your friends the posts/ads of pages you have liked. I think it's just a spectrum where ads can become a service. What if Netflix could show me movies that friends have recently watched? Or TV ads rendered client-side to have personal details (adapting to the demographics)? What if I was emailed early a…

>Why is it "messed up" if it makes advertising more engaging?

You do understand that "making advertising more engaging" does not preclude something being messed up, right? If anything, it's the opposite.

Killing people on camera would also make for engaging advertising. Wouldn't you find it "messed up" for that reason?

Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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Post by jnrjnn »

pretoriusB wrote: post #146
eternalban wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You still don't understand the situation. By taking down Instagram now we'll send a clear message that taking liberties with our privacy and personal identity and likeness is /not acceptable/.

> By taking down Instagram now we'll send a clear message that taking liberties with our privacy and personal identity and likeness is /not acceptable/. I call BS. Having already accepted the Patriot Act, mass domestic surveillance, phone taps without a warrant, most of our data in Google/Facebook/MS/Apple/Dropbox/Amazon clouds, etc, we're now supposed "send a clear message that taking liberties with our privacy and…

pretoriusB: It sounds that you are a victim of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness

Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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Post by theklub »

imgabe wrote: post #50

For those of you who don't think this is a big deal. Instagram is explicitly stating that they're going to sell the use of your pictures to third parties. They're also going to start showing ads in their news stream. I know the pictures are of too low quality to be plastered on a billboard. That's not the point. What I expect they want to happen is something like this: I post a picture of me drinking a Coke to Instag…

You are close, I think their plan is to use your photos with people you know. AKA you drinking the coke is now coke's ad on your friend's pages.

Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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Post by eternalban »

pretoriusB wrote: post #146
eternalban wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You still don't understand the situation. By taking down Instagram now we'll send a clear message that taking liberties with our privacy and personal identity and likeness is /not acceptable/.

> By taking down Instagram now we'll send a clear message that taking liberties with our privacy and personal identity and likeness is /not acceptable/. I call BS. Having already accepted the Patriot Act, mass domestic surveillance, phone taps without a warrant, most of our data in Google/Facebook/MS/Apple/Dropbox/Amazon clouds, etc, we're now supposed "send a clear message that taking liberties with our privacy and…

You make a seriously excellent point!
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